To be sick of people slating Faith schools

[Jenga123]

Don't get me wrong I understand why some people may be against them but the negativity I've come across recently is, quite frankly ridiculous. I've been told by friends of friends, family etc that they pay for my dd's to attend their catholic primary and secondary schools and that tax payers that are paying towards these schools should not have to do so if their children can't attend these schools. Well let me just say the average amount of income tax each individual pays, that actually goes towards the upkeep of schools is minuscule, so they aren't in fact paying for them. Myself and the other parents of my dd's schools pay a considerable sum each year to the upkeep of the school and the school contributes 10% towards the costs of running their school and repairs etc.

I also come across animosity at the fact my children are getting a good education and people putting that down to them simply being baptised. But my point is if they feel that their own children are missing out by going to a less desirable school then I'm sure they could have them baptised therefor giving them a higher chance of securing a place at a faith school, and whilst I'm not advocating people pretending to be of the faith, I'm simply saying there are options.

As for my dd's schools like I said they are Catholic and are obviously places were parents of the same faith opt to send their children as they want them to be educated within that faith, and I can't see any problem with this to be honest so why am I hearing nothing but negativity from people?

*MrsDiamond4" "Posie we didn't discriminate against your children and the thanks you gave was to bad mouth on facebook. Not a good idea especially when on the PTA"

Who is "we"?

Gnome- sorry by postcode i meant distance. Which in reality means 3 or 4 streets (less than 500m last year), all exclusively victorian homeowner properties, in the region of £600k+.

There is a school that selects by postcode lottery for leftover places once the music applicants have been accomodated. Is that fair? Gives everyone the same chance, but locals may miss out..

Posie I think maybe upthread you expressed horror at prayers at the beginning of PTA meetings. Or was that someone else? Definitely I remember someone saying it.

No that was me, but MrsDiamond definitely wanted me to think that she knew me. She repeated that I bad mouthed the school which is something I was accused of by a particularly unhinged drunk woman at a party for everyone to hear, she had heard it from another gossip, it wasn't true.

So on a forum where I'm unknown why would someone twist my words repeatedly to say the same as the gossip mongers? Bit of a coincidence isn't it?

"Posie we didn't discriminate against your children and the thanks you gave was to bad mouth on facebook. Not a good idea especially when on the PTA"

So who is "we"?

Why did you write "Posie we didn't discriminate against your children and the thanks you gave was to bad mouth on facebook. Not a good idea especially when on the PTA" if it wasn't to pretend to know me?

No I said that I put my religious views on Facebook but not slagging off the school.

Anyway. It's discrimination however you look at it. Weird that some people don't want to recognise it as privilege.

I feel quite icky about someone either knowing me or posting something which makes an impression that they know me. It feels pretty awful.

Bye.

I never pretended to know you, what are you rambling on about?
Stop pm.

Take some responsibility for your behaviour.
If you do not want people to know things about you. Don't overshare on the internet and don't accuse people of lying either. Its bad form.

Well why is anyone bothered about unequal admssion policy then if you don't want them to go there? Yes we've had the its local and handy, but so are lots of schools

Oh, if wishing made it so.

My son's only hope of a local school this year is a CofE school that got a bad Ofsted, which seems to have dissuaded some of the out-of-borough faith parents last year. I'm hoping that this year, a similar number decide that a faith education isn't that important to them after all.

Not that I particularly want him to go to a CofE school. I just want him to go to school less than 45 minutes from where we live.

YouGotta we must be neighbours!

How is saying a few things over sharing?

I haven't said where I live, my kids schools, how many or how old my kids are, no personal details whatsoever.

I pm'd you twice ages ago. Saying stop creates an impression that it's constant and loads. It's neither.

Posie I feel quite ICKY that i have wasted so much talking to you. Especially as you probably won't recall it later and thus learn no lessons.

So in a nutshell...do not OVERSHARE, what goes on the internet, can be read by anyone. (That includes strangers who do not know you)

You're welcome.
Bye

Yougotta I'm not talking rubbish at all. Please read again what I have said. I'm certainly not saying there is no discrimination against Jews and Muslims or anyone else for that matter, in general. Im talking about these threads. People would not talk in the same derogatory manner against them as they do Christians. For some reason they can say what they like about Christians safe in the knowledge that they won't be accused of any religious hatred. People just do not use terms like "you Jews" or "you Muslims" in the context they do with Christians. Deliberately misinterpreting what I'm saying won't alter this.

There is nothing to stop you (in theory) setting up your own non-faith school.

Not quite true. A free school tried to open up near us recently, in an area of huge pressure on school places. A nominal catchment was identified and several potential sites were put forward backed by the school, council and local MP.

The EFA didn't like the premises and allocated buildings in another part of the borough entirely. Back to square one to get a much needed new school locally.

You're right Itsmine, it never ever is.

Catholic schools do help the less advantaged, they have helped to integrate large immigrant Polish and Filipino communities. Many Polish children are unable to speak English when first attending, and in my area people from the church go in to the school to help the children with their language development. That is not state funded that is community based.

LMAO

RC schools for decades rarely got ESOL students, as soon as EU migration became a thing they suddenly decided you not only had to be baptised, but baptised before 6 months. Something that culturally is not does in east Europe and that is virtually impossible to organise if you are taking baby to see grandparents.

Can you imagine replacing the word Christian here with "Jew"or "Muslim"and how terribly phobic it would sound. No one would dare, and yet it seems perfectly fine when it is about Christians. Why is that?

Because only Christians call anyone doing something good as 'christian'.

People would not talk in the same derogatory manner against them as they do Christians. For some reason they can say what they like about Christians safe in the knowledge that they won't be accused of any religious hatred. People just do not use terms like "you Jews" or "you Muslims" in the context they do with Christians.

You clearly weren't on the recent anti-Semitism thread.

I think any religious segregation or discrimination is awful, including lumping all people of a faith together and treating them as if they all believe and act as some of their more unfortunate adherents do, regardless of whether it's an historically persecuted or minority faith, or one that has significant cultural and structural capital.

I also think that faith schools, and faith admissions, contribute to the feeling of separateness and in some cases grievance against the religious groups that are relatively more privileged by law in England.