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If you work only school hours....

166 replies

NickyEds · 27/01/2016 14:09

..but you aren't a teacher, what do you do?

Are there any jobs that fit in school hours and holidays that aren't in schools?

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FunnysInLaJardin · 28/01/2016 22:45

I'm a solicitor and work 9.30-2.30 and so can drop and collect the kids. DH is a teacher and so does the holidays. We are very lucky to have 2 professional jobs, a good joint wage and get to see loads of each other and the children. Long may it last!

YAWN!

Crabbitface · 28/01/2016 22:52

Place marking for ideas.

cheapandcheerful · 28/01/2016 23:03

Find me a teacher that only works school hours... Confused

LucyTheBookLady · 28/01/2016 23:11

I run my own business selling children's books and mentoring other mums running their businesses too, so I work flexible hours to suit my lifestyle (I don't yet have to worry about school hours as my son is still a toddler so I just work - quite literally - around him!) but many of my team work whilst their kids are in school and they have that 'window of opportunity'! One aspect of our business is working with schools to run sponsored events to get them lots of free books but that is totally each organisers choice if and when they decide to work with schools. Many don't so if you want to avoid them like the plague that's completely reasonable! 😂 I have to say as a family we love all the free book perks we get too ;) xx

MistressDeeCee · 28/01/2016 23:14

Self-employed creative. I don't work outside the home every day. DDs are grown now but in their schooldays Id take on bookings with 10am start time so could do school run, Id always be finished by 3.30pm so theyd be in after school club for an hour or so. Any bookings that really needed to start earlier, Id hire a freelancer So, mostly hours to suit

AcrossthePond55 · 28/01/2016 23:52

My mum was our church's bookkeeper. I don't know her specific hours as I was very young, but she went to work after we left for school and was home when we got home.

RubyFlint · 28/01/2016 23:56

I have 2 part time admin jobs over 4 days - I work 2 short days and 2 long days. I take some unpaid leave to cover hols in one job and the other is term time only.

The pay is a lot less than I'm used to, but holiday time with my kids and being able to collect them from school 3 days a week are the upsides so I'm happy for now.

Marmitelover55 · 29/01/2016 00:21

I understand that teachers have a difficult job and work long hours, but at least they don't get their pay pro-rated down for working term time only, as most other professions would do.

CookieDoughKid · 29/01/2016 00:22

I do match betting at home. I made £210 since Friday last week and working just an hour a day and it's tax free. If you are interested in learning more PM me. However it's not for those with addictive or betting tendencies. I am very logical, unemotional and very methodical to my job. It's about putting very calculated bets in, betting against the bets (using precise figures) and making money from the bookie offers. I am going to try and make £500 by next Friday (that's 2 weeks work, tax free, averaging an hour and a half a day).

spikejack · 29/01/2016 00:38

I am self-employed as a Virtual Assistsnt. I have worked in administration for approximately 20 years and after my first child came along I knew that I wanted to be self-employed, providing admin services to other businesses big back then (10 years ago), it wasn't really a thing so I sort of shelved it for a while as a silly dream 😊

Initially, I took a job as a secretary on a part-time basis for a local branch of a national charity. It was completely working from home and I was very fortunate to spot the tiny ad in the local paper! I did this for about seven years and loved it.

However, once both of my children were at school, I felt that I wanted to return to work so I was offered a part time job in the fundraising department of another local charity.

During that time, I slowly built up a client base and in June of last year I left my job to become solely a VA.

I am extremely lucky because the previous owners of our house built a small extension and converted half of the additional room into an office. I work the hours that I choose for the clients that I select. It has its ups and downs, can be very lonely and isolating, is a bit scary, encourages doubters to pass comment on my 'job' and its actual existence (A what? So do you just spend all day on FB? Oooohhh, your house must be tidy if you are at home all day?", it can encourage midday snacking 😄 and the heating bill has increased dramatically. The income can be sporadic (unless you offer packages and retainers as I do), and you solely responsibly fit submitting your own tax return (and paying the subsequent bill!)

I had coveted the local primary school secretarial job and secretly waited for the secretary to retire. I had volunteered in the school office a handful of times during busy periods and the head of school would fairly regularly say that one day there would be a position available for me in the future so I offered my help is often as I could. However, when the secretary retired last year, a new head of school was appointed who had other ideas and the role of secretary has been filled with an acquaintance of hers. On reflection, I have to say I am relieved that the hope is no longer there for me because the hours would require me to place my children into breakfast and after-school clubs, which I definitely do not want to do. Weird that I hadn't thought of that for all of those years!

As a VA, I can still help at school, attend school trips if needed, watch school plays and assemblies without having to check with a boss and I can make tea, have dinner in the slow cooker, and schedule work around my plans and vice versa.

Ifyou have any sort of skills that could be useful to a company or an individual, that would save them time / money / hassle, I highly recommend becoming a VA or offering some sort of virtual
setvice. Certainly for me it's a regular income, I am earning more on a part-time basis pro rata than I ever have in any full-time job. I feel proud of myself (and I'm terrible at praising myself), am regularly shell-shocked and a bit over-whelmed that this is actually 'a thing' and it's working for us, and I also feel that I am contributing just as much as DH, in terms of money and time with my children. I managed to pay for Christmas just gone and a weeks camping last summer. I'm hoping for something a little drier and earner this year! 😆

Oddly, a few of my friends have disappeared because they felt that I gave up a perfectly good job with good prospects, to take a risk. Seems to be working out though 😉😎. Funnily enough, the charity that I left in June is now one of my biggest clients 😊.

Good luck with whatever you decide. Of course I am biased but I'd recommend being a VA anyday 😊

Peppaismyhomegirl · 29/01/2016 00:54

What is it you do exactly @cookiedoughkid. Sounds interesting?

margaritasbythesea · 29/01/2016 07:04

Spikejack How did you get into that.

Also interested in the betting but not for me. My dh loves numbers.

Cleanermaidcook · 29/01/2016 07:11

I work in a pre-school, started off as an unqualified volunteer and did a college course part time at age 43, full time term time now, love it and it means I get time with my kids too. :D

Coffeemachine · 29/01/2016 07:16

office role.

took me about 150 applications to get 1 job interview (and was offered the role). school hour jobs are very hard to find.

IfYouCantSeeMyMirrors · 29/01/2016 07:48

Another point to consider with regard to school holidays is that certain jobs can easily be swapped around from a 'parent needing only term-time work' to a ' university/college student needing only holiday work'. This doesn't have to be entirely unskilled work - I share a role with a student who covers for me in the school holidays, giving her valuable experience and giving me the time off.

Woolyheads · 29/01/2016 07:48

You do have the right to apply for flexible working hours in any job.
It is worth at least applying.
I have a male colleague with 2 children.
At 2:15 every day he just gets up and buggers off.
He is paid full time and has just been promoted.

PourMeSomethingStronger · 29/01/2016 11:45

I'm on an annualised days contract, so as long as I work the specified number of days a year and meet my clients' deadlines I can take my days off when I like. I occasionally need to do a school holiday day, but it's very rare.

CookieDoughKid · 29/01/2016 13:47

peppa tis exactly as I described. I make use of free money being offered by bookies to tempt punters who put bets down. Except you bet AS well as bet AGAINST in a trading exchange. You don't risk your cash as you bet exactly against. To the bookies you look like you have just a layed down a bet. Which you have. The bookies don't know that you've laid against the bets elsewhere. Once completed you pocker the free £50 or £30 bonus whatever by repeating the same ''bet''

TheLittleFoxes · 29/01/2016 13:57

Spike jack, how did you set yourself up as a VA and start finding work? I've thought about doing this myself but was at a loss as to how to go about it.

CookieDoughKid · 29/01/2016 14:18

Pocket not pocker. It's very simple in reality and so long as you know how to use a particular betting calculator, you don't even need to be good at maths. If you want to know more, pm me and I'll send you a link to some training videos that I learnt from. I don't have the time to be spending hours in front of a problem earning minimum wage so I like to work very efficiently. I do one trade over maybe 30 mins to 45 mins or an hour in total duration and it will net me about £25 or ùp to £50 (tax free as you don't need to pay tax on match betting results ). If you have more time then you could earn more.

It's not gambling as that is for dummies who take risks and i don't take risks and especially don't like losing money.

BleakHill · 29/01/2016 14:31

Do you specifically not want to work in a school?
I work in admin in a school, term-time only and school hours. Pay is pro-rated so not great but benefits are obvious. Had 10 years of University admin experience before DC so that helped a lot with getting a foot in the door.

NickyEds · 29/01/2016 15:20

Bleak I'm not completely against working in a school -just being a teacher! I think the main problem I'm having is that I worked for myself for a very long time pre-dc and thought I'd continue with that when my dc go to school. However, I'm just not convinced I could make any kind of money (it doesn't need to be good money but worth my while!) without working very long hours. i'll be 40 when they go to school so not to old to retrain (???) but I've no idea what I'd like to do. My old job was my dream job.

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SkaterGrrrrl · 29/01/2016 16:25

I work for a charity. I work 14 hours a week and I can take those hours however I like eg 2 long days, 5 short days.

I work 3 short days a week: Tues, Wed and Thurs. I take DD to school every morning then get a train at 9.05. I start work at 9.45.

On Tuesdays and Wednesdays I leave the office at 2.15 and get a train back and am at the school gates at 3.15.

On Thursdays I work a slightly longer day (9.45 -4.15) and DH works from home and does the school pick up.

It helps that my husband is in the civil service and has flexible hours too.

The hours are absolutely brilliant. The money is terrible. But I'm not there for the pay: I work there because I believe I'm making a difference in people's lives.

MoreCrackThanHarlem · 29/01/2016 16:37

I work 8-4.30 term time only as a Child Protection and Attendance Officer.

I started out as a TA, progressed through Behaviour Support Worker and then Learning Mentor before my current role.

There is a really wide variety of jobs in education which are well paid (ish) with the chance of career progression, not always school based but often term time only.

gamingmum · 29/01/2016 17:44

Loads of people at our local weatherspoons get shifts to match any number of possible hours so you have all sorts of people. Parents that can do evenings or during the day students that can work evenings, full time workers who cab do a few hours here and there for extra cash etc. There are always jobs to be Done you just need to keep your eyes open.

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