Could Donald Trump be the next Hitler?

[Destinysdaughter]

I pray to God he doesn't get elected as the next president but after just watching the C4 documentary about him, I fear for the future of the USA and consequently the world. Hitler was once a joke but then economic conditions changed and people wanted answers and Hitler was able to blame much of Germany's ills on the Jews much like Trump is doing with Mexicans, Muslims etc. His supporters seen equally fanatical and not open to any kind of rational debate. It really fucking scares me, the world seems to becoming much more intolerant and if economic conditions deteriorate further I worry about what will happen. Please do tell me IABU but I feel bloody uneasy about this...

I know fuck all about servers and data and the like, I'd easily make a stupid mistake like that. But then, I don't have a whole department of different specialists outside my office door. Why wasn't she advised correctly, or what was the reasoning for this? want2bsupermumsays above it's pretty much common sense, and iirc correctly she works in some sort of public auditors (?) Same sort of thing

Sorry, not "appoint Bill" but push fo Bill.

Obama is in the Presidents club.
A naïve friend recently could not comprehend that Bush and Clinton talk regularly - she sees them still a opponents. Hell, no!
They are a very small and exclusive club of people who know what it is like to have the responsibility of the 'free world' and the finger on the nuclear button, not to mention the compromises they have had to make to get there.
There are far more similarities that bind them than differences that divide them.

Donald Trump speech :- different accent - same words

7days I am an auditor. Even when I worked at a regional accounting firm the message from leadership was loud and clear that client data is sensitive and confidential. If I had been found to have moved any of that data onto non approved servers or cloud space I would have lost my job on the spot.

When dealing with anything confidential you don't use your yahoo email account, a site like dropbox or a private hard drive. You keep that data on your employers secure network. The fact she failed to do this highlights either incompetence or elitism. I suspect it's the latter. Neither impress me much.

I watched The Mad world of Donald Trump. I fear he'll get in as there were certainly enough people jumping on his dick.

'The fact she failed to do this highlights either incompetence or elitism'

Some rumours are saying it is worse than that.

I don't get what you mean by elitism, want2b?

He won't commit mass genocide. That's outlandish.

7days when I say elitism what I mean is someone who doesn't think norms apply to them because they see themselves as above everyone else. I honestly don't think HC thinks the parameters of data security apply to her. You could call it arrogance but that would infer she thinks she is better. She comes across as thinking she is above others which is more skewed towards elitism.

His supporters wanted to bomb the muslim city of Agrabah.
I don't think we'll have any worries about him becoming President.
! I really hope i'm not proven wrong !

Demographically I think it would be hard for him to win. The US is much more diverse in the under 50s age group than the over 50s the youngest voting groups are very diverse and getting more diverse by every generation. Many of the larger states such as California are already minority white. For obvious reasons Trump does not appeal to (most) women, and people who are of Asian, African and Central and South American descent.

Recent surveys suggest that the biggest "minority" group will be people of Asian descent not Mexican or of other Latin American background. Where I live there are huge numbers of people of Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese and Korean extraction. Our local high school is 25% Chinese. If you know anything about major cities and their suburbs such as LA, NY, Seattle etc. this is old news.

The Republicans were shocked when Obama won last time - their faces on election night tv showed they were stunned. But the Republicans find it very hard to appeal to anyone who is not white and anglo.

I have only met two people here who said they supported Trump - 2 working class white guys. Trumps appeal is very narrow. Most women can't stand him and they are over 50% of the electorate.

Reading American blogs the reasonably informed thinking is that the Republican establishment are backing Marco Rubio as he is preferred to either Cruz or Trump.

On the Democrat side the thinking is if Hilary is indicted it will only be after the nomination process is completed and if she is the winner of that process she will be forced to stand down. That will leave the Democrats with no candidate and that will open the way for the Democratic party hierarchy to 'select' the nomination candidate in an emergency which in this case will be agreed is Biden - without running another nomination process.

Bernie Sanders went to Obama last week - no one really knows why. If Hilary were eventually prosecuted some think Obama would pardon her as he leaves office.

Some of that may be conspiracy theory and some may be well informed. Many other permutations possible.

One theory I have heard is that many senior Democrats do not believe Hilary could beat Trump so if Trump wins the Republican nomination they may take emergency action to pick another candidate.

Trump's appeal is very narrow. He simply won't be able to appeal to a broad enough mixture of voters to get past the anti-Mexican, anti-woman, anti-Muslim animus he has displayed. Now it is possible that, if he is the nominee, he will try to move more to the center for the general election. Most Republicans try to do this. Romney tried to do it and failed and he actually is more toward the center.

So the news today has Trump doing last minute campaign with his family. LOVED the pig. I couldn't help but think of DC and his relationship with the pig! Trump also opened up his plane for kids to run around.

Kudos to Trump. The man has the best in the business managing his publicity.

So Cruz took Trump with Rubio right behind him. I think it will be interesting to see how the votes go in New Hampshire because I think the other candidates are going to fall away in the next week. It really looks like it will be Rubio. Not sure if I like that choice.

I thought it was interesting that Bernie and HC were so close. Clearly a lot of Democrats also don't like her so much.

You have to wonder if the talking up of how popular Trump apparently is was a big ruse by the GOP. Set the bar so high he can't but fail to meet expectations and watch his supporters migrate to less controversial candidates.

Interesting result.

It has to remembered that the number of people who actually vote in these primaries is very low. They are activists and don't necessarily represent the popular floating voter.

Rubio is the Republican establishment's favoured candidate but that might not be the 'peoples' choice. The party machine will have put everything in to making sure his vote turned out and he seems to have won against Trump by virtue of that higher than expected turn out of his voter base.

I wonder if it was a very close race in the Republican side whether Trump would run as an independent? He has never ruled it out and if he gets a total number of votes almost or actually equal to the 'winning' candidate despite having fewer delegates he will argue he still has a mandate.

Cruz is too ultra conservative to attract many centre ground voters.

Democratic race matched the polls. Neck and neck. Both candidates are very Marmite. You either like them or you don't.

I think Rubio won and Trump lost on second votes. I saw a poll a few days ago that showed Trump had a substantial majority first vote support but almost no one put Trump as their second vote.

the number of people who vote in these primaries is very low

That's true in absolute terms, but turnout last night was up 50% on 2012.

The received wisdom seems to be that a high turnout favours maverick candidates (because the assumption is that maverick candidates attract more passionate supporters, and are therefore better at getting people out to vote).

However this time it seems to have favoured the "establishment" candidate, who will end up with about the same number of delegates as Trump despite trailing the latter in the polls all the way through. That may be because Trump was successful not only at getting out the pro-Trump vote, but also provided strong motivation for the less batshit crazy element of the republican party to get off their backsides and vote for a more electable candidate.

The polls did seem to favour Trump going into he caucus but in the outturn Iowa voted as one would expect. Conservative right wing. Trump did better than you would expect for his kind of politics as did Rubio.

Iowa is about 1% of the national total vote and sends about 1% of delegates at the national convention. The test for Trump will be New Hampshire where he should do well. If he doesn't do well there I suspect his vote will slip away sharply.

At the moment its not clear cut on ether Republican or Democrat side. On a side note, even though the US stock market was closed when the results came out futures contracts continue trading through the night and US stock market futures prices fell on the result being announced.

Financial markets react in real time and a split vote leads to uncertainty and financial markets discount uncertainty (risk) which causes price so fall. This could end up being a very messy race and that will affect investment decisions and the economy as well as geopolitics.

'causes price so fall' = causes prices to fall

I think the markets probably fell more due to the perception that the possibility of President Sanders had increased (it's still a very slim chance IMO).

There was nothing in the republican voting pattern to scare the horses. Rubio's chances of the nomination have improved and he is at least marginally sane.

Democrat result just out Hilary just scrapped a win by a very small margin.

Apparently so I heard earlier this morning that some districts didn't get their votes counted in the Democrat race.

I think the democrat result is still an estimate, it doesn't get confirmed for a couple of days. Nevertheless it's effectively a tie and not a great result for Clinton especially as she is going to get trampled all over in the next primary.