To agree with this headteacher regarding wearing pyjamas as outdoor wear?

[MaisyMooMoo]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-35413153

Onsies ... I might get judgy about that if i saw them, especially ones with "ears"

But ive never seen that except on children

YANBU. I agree too, in 99% of cases it's just bloody lazy. Who the hell goes out in pyjamas unless it's an emergency or they have ishoos? I've never seen it (except once, the landlord of the scummy pub down the road going over to the shop in his dressing gown). Embarrassing for the parents and the kids.

I would be judgey as hell at someone being seen at their DC's school in their bloody PJs That says more about you than it does them...

I think you'd actually find a whole lot of people don't actually CARE what other parents are wearing to be honest! I certainly don't have time to analyse what the parents are wearing at school drop off

Actually too many people don't care about much. That's a problem in itself and probably explains why people don't give a shit about setting good examples for children.

differentnameforthis agreed. Since having a disability i don't judge anyone.
I have gone over the rd with a coat over my pjs so i guess i would be a lazy bastard too!
The fact that i some days i can't get undressed i guess doesn't make a difference?
I'm also able to sometimes put foundation on, still can't put my arms behind my back or above my head though...

Paul, pjs are actual clothes, just not the clothes that the head would prefer. The other thing is that school is compulsory, therefore parents have to take their children. A school won't get very far if it attempts to impose a dress code for the school run because realistically they can't threaten anything to impose it, given that children have to attend. They might be able to insist on no pjs for events which take place within the school but they run the risk of alienating parents and on the whole school want parents to attend these events. A bar is different - it is a private business.

Sounds to me like the head has got a bee in her bonnet about this and really it isn't all that important in the great scheme of things to worry about when running a school.

This whole thread is just ridiculous really. No matter how you dress it up, wearing pyjamas outside is just slovenly and lazy. Yes, there are a couple of situations where it is necessary. However, a parent simply not taking thirty seconds to change out of the stuff they slept in is slovenly, lazy and rather pathetic. I really don't see how it could be seen any other way.

Sounds to me like the head has got a bee in her bonnet about this and really it isn't all that important in the great scheme of things to worry about when running a school

Sounds to me the head cares about the kids more than the parents do. About taking some pride in themselves, about setting a good example.
No it's not hugely important in the grand scheme of things..but accepting this, how long before it evolves into not caring about more important things?
It's about attitude, and frankly, a can't be arsed getting dressed before taking the kids to school attitude is poor.

Ridiculous to say the head cares more than the parents do. Good parenting and setting an example is about so much more than what parents choose to wear to take their dc to school. I don't equate clothing with having pride in oneself - that is about being a decent person and living a life in which you feel you make a positive contribution to those around you - doing the best for your children in terms of providing for them, giving them a stable, loving childhood and teaching them how to be decent people. None of that has anything to do with wearing pjs on the school run.

I have accidently taken kids to school in slippers (Birkenstock/Crocs type) but have rarely seen pyjamas wearing outside school, only one parent in the car with a newborn.

It's obviously a trend in this school and I totally agree with the head, especially coming to parent evenings and assemblies in PJs that is embarrassing.

My dd2 hasn't slept through the night since she was born and I still need to get the older 2dc to school yet I still manage to throw a pair of jeans on. Wouldn't dream of embarrassing my kids for the sake of something that takes less than a minute .

This thread reminds me of an article I read a while back about a woman being chipped out of Tesco for wearing pyjamas. She stated something along the lines of "I don't know why I was told to leave the store. My pyjamas were my best ones, they had little cows on them." Complete with sad faces and pic of the offending nightwear. Hahaha!

If you really really cant get dressed, why not just get plain pjs/joggers/leggings and just sleep in them?! At least no one will know...

Ridiculous to say the head cares more than the parents do. Good parenting and setting an example is about so much more than what parents choose to wear to take their dc to school. I don't equate clothing with having pride in oneself

Not ridiculous at all. In this aspect she does care more. It is ONE aspect of good parenting. Of course being a decent person matters, of course making a positive contribution matters but so does setting an example of being bothered to get dressed. Why would you not care about your children learning to be bothered about making an effort?
Having clothing is not about having pride in yourself...It's the attitude about making an effort to dress before you go out.

If what parents wear was all I had to worry about. I'd have no worries.

The OFSTED report is good for this school, if what parents choose to wear affects the achievements of the dc I'd expect it would be reflected in reports?

Skerne Park OFSTED report

My dad's house is near this school, and yes there are several parents (mums) wearing pjs on the school run, but the children are clean and tidy, as as it's the children who attend the school and are obliged to wear what the school says, what the parents wear to get the dc to school clean and tidy is really none of the heads business or the business of other judgey parents.

Even if it laziness, it's none of my business what someone else wears, they are getting their dc to school. It has zero impact on me, my child's education so why on earth would someone else wears to drop their dc off at school bother me?

Parents evenings etc are different, but again, none of my business, and while I'd do a double look, I'd not be sneery or write them off as lazy as I have no idea what their lives are like.

I've seen parents be told on here many times to take dc to school in pjs if they play up getting dressed. But now on here people are saying there's no reason why a child should be at school in pjs and asking nooka why she has done it.

Its the opposite at my dds school, mums who are groomed, smart, full make up etc, are the ones judged here as being vain, snobby. You can't win.

I'm usually too busy worrying about what I'm being judged about (probably my unbrushed hair) to actually notice what others are wearing but from reading these threads seems I'm in the minority.

Helping students reach their potential isn't just about exam results, it is also about students knowing what to say and what to wear in different situations. I am shocked that anyone can condone people wearing pjs to a parents' evening. Is it attention-seeking, giving a finger to social convention or just lazy?

I bet the parents will not be going into their child's secondary school in pjs. So why do they do it for primary? Poor primary teachers.

Except in certain circumstances (illness, just out of hospital) wearing PJs to school equates to wearing a slogan saying 'I'm a lazy slob who can't be arsed with life'

The report also mentions that the school has a much higher than average number of disadvantaged pupils, and also, the number of pupils with disabilities and statements for special educational needs are well above average too.

Sounds like a lot of parents in this particular school have a lot on their plates, wearing pjs to walk to school is probably the last of their worries.

It is purely a matter of opinion to say that not wearing pjs to school is an aspect of good parenting. I would argue that these parents are teaching their dc appropriate behaviour for the place they are in because the children are in school, on time and wearing the expected uniform. I would guess that the parents think that doing the school run is informal and seeing as they are not pupils the important thing is that their dc are properly dressed. I don't think anyone would go to work in pjs, so I would imagine the parents are fully aware that it isn't suitable clothing for all occasions.

Liese, many if not most inner-city schools have that profile, ours does! I would say that parents wearing PJs however is not the norm just because the school have a high number of disadvantaged pupils. If it's some kind of trend around this school, I personally find that even more sad TBH.

I don't think anyone would go to work in pjs

.......Yet.

Pjs as outerwear is not a good look but really this head has no business raising it with parents unless she has a genuine concern about the wellbeing of the child. What next? Commenting on people failing to brush their hair/ wearing joggers?

I think I might try to start another trend and start going out in my bra and pants. Obviously, I'll shower first and change into clean ones.

Might wait until summer though.

I think I might try to start another trend and start going out in my bra and pants

I read some online fashion blog last week that said that exposed lingerie is going to be the next big thing this summer. I think I'll give that one a miss. I'm not sure the world would be interested in seeing bridgettes.

Is that a new thing Maisy. Seems to me I've been seeing bras, at least, for ages now, pants not so much; clearly, I'm going to be ahead of the trend.

When I was young, it was considered very off to let your bra strap show. If you wore a strapless dress you would make sure you had a strapless bra to go under it or you went without a bra. Now bra straps seem to be a feature in their own right.