To agree with this headteacher regarding wearing pyjamas as outdoor wear?

[MaisyMooMoo]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-35413153

It is a definite contrast to the wash everything after 20 minutes wear and disinfect the house hourly brigade!

I can't believe people who think its okay to wear pyjamas as outdoor wear. Is it okay to wear nightdresses too?

Its a lazy, unhealthy mentality. Lounge around, don't get washed, feel sluggish. Or get up, get washed, get dressed, feel more energised.

Surely that's not a difficult concept to understand?

I really do despair if people think it's okay to slob around, and I don't believe anyone who utters such tosh as "I got washed then I put my pyjamas back on"... Yes, sure you did

I really can't understand why anyone, would ever need or want to go out in their pajamas or not having a wash. It takes seconds to throw some clothes on & have a quick wash.

I wouldn't do it, and haven't seen it. I think the school can enforce a 'dress code' on this who enter the buildings or whathaveyou, but those who pick up at the gate...not so much. Tbh, I see some awful choices amongst those who do dress...PJs May be a better choice for some! And not washing? Not sure commenting on someone's personal hygiene is appropriate either.

I think by the time you have started turning up to meetings and assemblies with your pyjamas on, something needs to be said to you! I bet there would be a few comments passed if teachers turned up to work in their pyjamas! Going to a meeting in pyjamas is ridiculous.

I can just about imagine some emergency and them dropping kids off in pyjamas. I would be appalled if I had parents' evening and someone turned up in pyjamas though.

None of school's business. Isn't it enough that kids have to wear uniforms? Now they want to dictate what parents wear too?
Middle finger in the air to that.

Not all of us work 9-5. For some of us, the 9am drop off is bang in the middle of the night. I consider that after getting in at 4:30am, taking a fed, dressed child to school on time is enough. I don't need to sling anything but a coat over my PJs, as I'm going straight off to bed.

There's another thread going on this as well, and I'll say here what I've said there. Anyone who is wearing pajamas on the school run needs support, not judgement and hatred. If people are feeling shit enough, physically or mentally, that they are unable to get dressed, then this bullshit is only going to make it worse.

In my city, it's the exception to see mothers not in their jamas dropping off school children: and if our local supermarket banned people in nightwear, they'd lose half their custom. I'm not talking about plain jersey trousers, either, which could or could not be nightwear - these are very clearly pyjama bottoms. In fact, some people also take their children to school (and shop in the supermarket) wearing both slippers and dressing gown.

In my street, it's the trend to sit outside on the pavement in the summer, on deckchairs all in a group somewhere (we don't have front gardens): every day, there will be at least three people in that group wearing PJs. It's very, very accepted here.

I posted on another thread just yesterday about how slovenly I have been recently, as a result of severe mental health difficulties. However, today I absolutely had to go to the office for something- so I got washed, cleaned my teeth, brushed my hair - and put on real clothes. It was disproportionately exhausting, for an every day activity: but sometimes, unfortunately, you have to suck it up. Somehow, we have lost our pride and our standards - dropping children off, for whatever reason, in PJs is one thing: but attending meetings and assembly? Come on, folks- that's not OK!

(Hasty disclaimer: the only time I have appeared in public in my PJs was last year, when there was such severe noise from a neighbours house at 4.30am, I went across to tell ask them to keep it down. My other neighbours were very excited that I had finally "gone native" about public PJs!)

I'm finding it hard to envisage someone who feels well enough to turn up to meetings and school assemblies, but not well enough to change out of their pyjamas, tbh.

I've never seen anyone do this. Can't say I'd be very impressed if I did. It takes 30 seconds to chuck on some clothes.

It does, but why the fuck should I? Unless you get dressed in my 'work day' which can be 8pm-4am?

I do tend to feel for people outside in pyjamas, it does usually signal mental health issues, alcoholism or an inability to cope. Maybe it is different elsewhere, but where I live those are the three groups likely to turn up in pyjamas.

Oh ffs.

Do we really need TWO of these vile threads?

I am really interested to see your post Hefzi. I live in an impoverished borough but have very rarely seen pjs worn outside of the house, and never on the school run. But if someone started doing it here, and then their friend did, and their neighbour ... I could imagine it becoming a thing.

I think you have described how it casually becomes the norm or acceptable. This HT is obviously just asking people to think again!

""and I don't believe anyone who utters such tosh as "I got washed then I put my pyjamas back on"""

I'm in Liverpool and this 'trend' has been around for nearly ten years.

The girls/young women buy PJs with the intent of wearing them out, they aren't wearing the ones they've slept in.

Some waltz up the school in PJs and full makeup, on a Friday they have rollers/pin curls in as well.

I agree with the ban, wearing PJs on the school run is minging and tbh a 'ban' on this may make anyone with severe depression realise that they need to address what's going on in their life.

I've had depression, when I came through the 'fog', I was embarrassed about how I'd let my standards slip.

PJs in Primark are more expensive than jog pants and aren't anymore comfortable.

The areas that this is seen in as the norm are generally 'disadvantaged' and the children underachieving.

It is letting the children down, if a parent can't be arsed to get dressed.

I'm so glad the fashion for onesies died out, my area was full of Men and older teen boys, wearing them to pop to Tesco's. It wasn't a good look.

My Local big Tesco's has banned them, but Farmfoods etc haven't.

I don't think it is a vile thread.

"" it does usually signal mental health issues, alcoholism or an inability to cope.""

It doesn't where I am.

The local nail salons had to ban them.

It's fine to throw them on after a spray tan, but you go straight home.

Voldys - not all of them. Really.

I've never seen anyone do this around here at drop-off or pick-up. If I did, and it wasn't a one-off, I'd be quite worried about them because it's not a trend or fashion statement here.

It's not a vile thread. If that's the case is the journo who wrote the article for the BBC vile. That's reporting and this is discussion. What might be vile are some of the comments made, not the subject of the thread.

Meh, it's not something I would do. But I don't think the head teacher has any place dictating what parents can and can't wear. If they're actually entering school premises then fair enough (does anyone really turn up to parents evening in pj's, really?) but I doubt what a parent is wearing at the school gates is likely to have any sort of impact on a child's education.

The thing is, while the woman concerned may just be 'lazy' or whatever, they may also have difficult home conditions. They may have a disability, be in an abusive relationship, have MH issues, among other things and labelling these parents as lazy and accuse them of being a bad example will help no one. I volunteer in a refuge, and if I was in the same position as some of the women I doubt I would be able to get out of bed let alone get my children to school and complete other everyday activities. The women shouldn't be judged - as the saying goes never judge until you have walked in that person's shoes. The parents in question have got their children to school, and it doesn't matter what on earth they wear. Instead of blaming these women, perhaps more support should be given.