To agree with this headteacher regarding wearing pyjamas as outdoor wear?

[MaisyMooMoo]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-35413153

I just don't see how people can't chuck on a pair of trackies and a sweatshirt. Takes 30 seconds. I agree with 'judgy' head teacher.

If it was one or two people there's a four chance it could be a couple of poor souls with chronic illness/depression etc but if there were enough for this letter to be sent, it's unlikely.

It's a parent's job to embarrass their kids.

(Mine are proud of what I do.)

Ugh. I don't own trackies. Or sweatshirts.

Some of us have standards.

I don't think that wearing pjs in public says anything about a parent, other than that they value being comfy. Pjs are lovely and life would be a lot nicer for women if we didn't feel pressured into wearing often uncomfortable clothes bras mainly and could just go with comfort.

I certainly don't think pjs = unwashed or mentally unwell. I wouldn't do it because it isn't the cultural norm where I live, but I don't see it as 'worse' than wearing joggers or leggings and both of those are acceptable in public.

As for the head, she ought to remember that she is the children's head teacher and not the parent's. It is beyond her remit to tell adults what they should and shouldn't wear.

Yes. Clothes for bed at the school gate...

I'm hardly going to buy clothes for the school run to keep the likes of you lot happy!

YY to being comfy in life. Why does everyone always think it's okay to tell women what to wear?

What a lot of fuss over nothing. The HT in question needs to find something more important to get worked up about.

What is acceptable attire to wear in public is a cultural construct that changes over time. 70 years ago the mumsnet equivalent would have been frothing at the lack of a hat. This is part of a much bigger macro trend around informalisation in our society.

There are some lovely PJs out there. Much better than the slobby hoody and leggings I saw sported by a woman on the bus today.

You know he difference- when you go into the shop you head to the nightwear bit or you can turn the other way and buy clothes to be worn out the house. A dressing gown is not the same as a cardigan with a belt!

You must have incredibly flexible childcare for your shift work and other people doing the school run at times can it be extended?

Why are you making it a women thing eggnog? It was about parents.

I buy clothes I like- the most suitable for doing a midnight (from my bodyclock) school run is PJs. They're just clothes.

The au pair is a teenager. Never up before 10am. And given how great they are, I'm not disturbing their lie in. (For fear they'll leave...)

The fashion for PJs is parents.

It's actually a snob thing- there is a real fashion for working class women to wear PJs. It's just a way for the HT to judge the poor. And it's nasty.

*women. Not parents.

It's women you see out and about in PJs, rarely men. The majority of parents doing school runs are the mums.

I just think it's slobby, apart from in certain circumstances. Sorry. Have to agree to disagree.

Bullshit. Perhaps at your school but not at them all. You are making this a women thing rather than a parent thing. No one else is.

I don't mind being slobby.

We have to agree to me not giving a fuck!

Not so much pjs at the school (but yes around the local garage mums walk there in pjs with pushchairs) but it's like a 'trend' to wear a onesie to the school it's nothing to do with health or mental health it's just lazy. It's a small village school.
In winter I do tend to get in my nightwear by at least 6pm after work/ all lifts have been done but I have been known to throw a coat over & pop to the shop

As you said it's a trend

When the trend changes and it will we shall see less people about in pj's

Do people who wear their PJs outside wear underwear underneath them?

I've done the nursery drop off in pyjamas. I was going through cancer treatment at the time. Those who said it only takes a few seconds to pull on leggings, that's true, but I didn't have the energy. I'd hire a taxi for the round trip because I certainly couldn't manage the ten minute walk. Anyone who'd judged me openly would have made me feel even more shit and I wouldn't have the energy to explain either.

I wonder what the new trend will be... nappies? Dummies has already been done.

Molly under those circumstances no one can judge you for that. You did incredibly well to do the nursery drop in the first place. Hope things are better for you now.

I don't know really. I have never gone out in my pajamas, but have often worn the same clothes three days running, not combed my hair or had a shower, as a lot of the time, I was going back to bed for the morning after doing the school run, or going to the gym. I would have been fuming if anyone had dared criticise me for any of those, so is it really much different going out in pajamas? I don't know.

I'm hardly going to buy clothes for the school run to keep to keep the likes of you lot happy. How is it making the likes of us happy. I couldn't give a shiny shit. If you dress as the Easter bunny or a freeeekin minion to do the school run

That was to Egg. BTW

Molly that is an impressive feat.

I am also a doctor and of course the sickest and most immobile patients arrive in their pyjamas. No one on this earth would judge them.

I don't think being tired is an acceptable excuse as we have established it takes little time or effort for the healthy. For me it is not an example I would set my children, good manners mean making those around you comfortable and this thread makes it clear plenty are uncomfortable with it.

I also want to know the answer to the underwear question.