To think if you've escaped a war zone, have shelter and food a wristband is no hardship

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I might get slammed but I really don't see the issue. I've went on very expensive holidays and festivals and have to wear a wrist band for weeks on end, its fine. When I go to the steam room in local gym I have to wear a band.

I really can't see the issue. It's not the same as forcing a tattoo on someone.

Ok OP, perhaps we should just tattoo them with a number on their arm instead??

Unbelievable.

Maybe we should put them all in a camp OP?

Yanbu. I'd wear a wristband if it got me free food and accommodation. Oh I forgot, I'm just one of the plebs who works and pays tax for the free food and accommodation.

Joking aside, it's quite easy to hide a wristband under a shirt sleeve. If people have truly fled from danger then a wristband is no big deal surely.

So Wandering if you had to flee your home and ended up in a foreign country with nothing, felt desperately unsafe and were still trying to bring your children up whilst being completely disenfranchised, it wouldn't bother you that you've been made a target for racist fuckheads BY THE STATE?

Um...cards can get lost or traded? Well if you have that reasoning so can wristbands, unless they are the sort that cannot be taken off.

I know! lets just tattoo them. Can't mistake that.

oh wait...

I think it's totally out of order and hysterical comparing this to the treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany. These wristbands were probably introduced with the best of intentions and as an administration tool they probably work very well. This isn't to say I think they are a good idea though, maybe photo cards would work better? I'm guessing they do need something.

The wristbands have been dropped.
This discussion is academic.

And they couldn't take them off.

I don't know, having never been in their position (there but for the grace of God); but my initial thought was that I'd just be grateful to have been given a roof over my head.

You can hardly say that it's been done out of deliberate malice. The houses are all owned by one company who've clearly just bought a load of paint in bulk and so that's the colour the doors are. Under any other circumstance nobody would expect the company to paint every front door on every house a different colour. I went to uni in the north east and my student digs were owned by the same company, and all the other student houses owned by the company had the same door colour, and the same furniture inside.

In that case let's give a wrist band for everyone entitled to benefits too for claiming them?

Not for any social or political reasons though. Just because it would be convenient to do the immigration and benefit bashing all on one big goady thread.

Yes, but given that it's known that these red doors are on the houses of asylum seekers, and it's making them a target, surely job one is fixing the situation, and not suggesting they should just shut and be grateful?

The local school has a similar problem with free school meals provision. They used to supply wristbands and were surprised when there was a drop in uptake through children being too ashamed to use them or having to hide them to avoid bullying. They swapped everyone onto cards which has helped.

I think that comparing this to the Nazi Germany policy of persecution of its victims is a bit alarmist.

"I think that comparing this to the Nazi Germany policy of persecution of its victims is a bit alarmist."

But any action like this will always be compared to the 'marking' of Jews in Nazi Germany, because we now know the consequences of singling out a specific part of the population in an environment of mistrust, scapegoating, and hatred.

Having history to refer to is, at the very least, instructive, and a reminder about complacency in the face of intolerance.

All the houses owned by the Cowdray Estate in West Sussex have the same yellow paint on their woodwork, problems only arise when there are unpleasant people.

Can we have wristbands to mark out the stupid bigots amongst us?

And neither would I compare it to the Nazi treatment of the Jews- we are helping these people, not persecuting them

Oh, right. I'm sure people who have been beaten up by racist thugs because their wristbands have identified them really feel helped.

The stupid amongst a minority on this thread is really quite terrifying.

Wasn't there a thread a while back where everyone was justifiably outraged that a school had introduced a wristband system for dcs receiving free school dinners? Something about it being stigmatising and alienating? I suppose it's fine to do that to them there refugees caught up in a war of our making not theirs though

OP if you really think your sauna wristband is comparable then there's no hope...

I can see a positive. I think it would reduce racially motivated violence as the racist bigots could easily identify the asylum seekers. That way they would know who to abuse and beat up rather then having to randomly target anyone who looks a bit ethnic.

Fuck me, the hard of thinking have descended en masse today!

I was just thinking the same Dawn.