To think that the 'Calais Camp' situation needs to be resolved ASAP!

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This is just getting ridiculous now. France need to take this problem to the EU and ask for help dealing with it immediately. It has gone on for too long and needs to stop.

I don't know what the answer is. I think the UK should take anyone under 18, and their family members. Other than that, everyone else should have to apply for asylum in France or risk arrest. Not a perfect solution, but the only one I have.

I have recently moved from London to a small rural village in Northern Sweden. I am living amongst and attending language classes with the refugees and I agree with a lot of what Hefzi has said. The majority seems to be young men with understanding that they will be able to get their families over. Just recently a man, 29 has got his parents and younger brother (18) over from Eritrea but his married sister has been refused and he is appealing. In a class of 25 everyone bar 3 of us who are of non refugee status are trying to bring family in.

There are a lot of myths and rumours surrounding life in the West. I was recently told by a Syrian man that 'Sweden lied. Sweden said you would get a new house and a new car when you come here.' I challenged him saying but you were not told that officially. (there are plenty of Swedes driving old bangers and living in pokey flats). He was adamant 'Everyone knows this, everyone. Swedish are liars.' By everyone he means the rumour mill. He has a large 3 bed roomed flat for him, his wife and five children (The last two children were born here). I get asked many times what it is like in London especially by the Eritreans and Somalians. I put them straight, it is a wonderful city which will always have my heart but it is expensive and crowded and it is no cakewalk and that they will struggle to find decent low cost accommodation and a job. I think the UK is a Country they are familiar with even if it's via football or pop music, the odd phrase they know in English or photos of Big Ben etc. Many say they had never heard of Sweden until it was an option for refugee status and the weather, the remoteness of it has clearly been a shock.

I do not know what the answer is but having seen first hand experience the effects of mass immigration has on a small rural town it is not without many complications.

zzz better? By being overcrowded and underfunded?

Then the next 'calais' fills up.... We take them.....then the next.... Everyone will keep coming. How will the uk be 'better'?

You are romantisizing it! Wafting around saying '2016' is the year history as made. All well and good but let's hear the plans for the practicalities

i do wish people would say where the money is coming from.
council budgets have been cut, adult social care is in free fall.
yet people keep saying "we must"
HOW?? who will pay??

Well nobody wants to answer that of course

The Syrian refugees the uk has committed to is one thing, endless Calais refugees is another matter

Are uk residents happy for further cuts to be made? 50 kids per class to become the norm? Double the wait to see a gp?

Looking forward to the EU referendum and voting out so at least I can do my bit to try and help the UK be in control of its destiny again rather than dictated to by the EU. All the economic arguments are guff - we are the EUs biggest market - they need us!

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp i'm not
my adult child can't afford for the services and benefits she relies on being cut any more.

Zzzz I'm afraid I think that you are staggeringly naive and idealistic. Have you not seen what is happening in Germany and Sweden at the moment?

The easy targets ( sick,disabled and elderley) are usually the ones to take the hit

Nobody on this thread can explain how the uk could absorb a constant stream of refugees? No limit according to zzz

Open borders is the new iteration of communism.

thats it, I do wish that the people yelling about it, would offer money and a room.

Supported housing and DV refuges are under serious threat. The elderly are going to be asked to pay more to stay in sheltered housing.

I suspect these causes arent seen as "trendy" enough.
While i agree that refugees should be helped i dont think it should be at the expense of women.

So, Germany has taken in 1.1 million migrants. If a large proportion of them are single men, and are intending to bring over families in the future, then we're looking at a massively larger number of people to assimilate.

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I have never understood why Calais is seen to be a problem for the UK to sort out. It is totally nothing to do with us nor is it in our jurisdiction. France is absolutely taking the piss and should have dispersed this camp and others like it long ago. If they need assistance with these migrants, they should request if from the EU through the proper channels.

While our lily-livered politicians continue to lick arse and try to appease our neighbours, this will never happen and we will continue to get truck loads of them over here, bringing in god knows what in terms of stuff they may be carrying, including diseases.

These migrants lie, they make up stories to get sympathy. They are certainly not 'desperate'. They are already in a safe country and if you were really 'desperate' you claim asylum in the first safe country you came to.

Yes you are correct the estimates I read are 6/7 million people will be added to the EU population. These refugees can move to any country once they have their status sorted.

There was talk last week of bringing over 3,000 unaccompanied refugee children. So who would care for them??

good question
I imagine these children will be classed as SEN
and that funding hasn't been cut.......

I guess foster carers at £500 pw. I gather teen boys are hard to place in fc.

Ah but grumpy they want to come to the uk because they have family here....not because it's the land of milk and honey, oh no, no, it's because of. family .... With no papers who can verify if it's true family here or not

Foster carers? But wait! They are in short supply for uk existing children..... Where will they magic them up from? Remember the tight rules Of own bedroom, culture etc

I know fc don't want to take teen refugee males.

ZZZZ so who do you think should pay for this??

Zzzz You are assuming posters who don't think encouraging entry to the UK via Calais is a good thing are against any immigration.