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To think that the 'Calais Camp' situation needs to be resolved ASAP!

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Kreacherelf · 24/01/2016 14:20

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413566/Port-Calais-closed-migrants-storm-harbour-make-Spirit-Britain-ferry-desperate-bid-reach-UK.html

This is just getting ridiculous now. France need to take this problem to the EU and ask for help dealing with it immediately. It has gone on for too long and needs to stop.

I don't know what the answer is. I think the UK should take anyone under 18, and their family members. Other than that, everyone else should have to apply for asylum in France or risk arrest. Not a perfect solution, but the only one I have.

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Samcro · 24/01/2016 23:19

us

but the real us will be the ones that can't afford it.
links to second world war stuff is irrelevant.
it is the people alive now who will have to pay.

take a moment and think.....who will pay?

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Samcro · 24/01/2016 23:20

by the way I am not against immigration(just to be clear)

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 24/01/2016 23:21

Kinder transport. Oh yes. Children taken into volunteer foster homes ( so no payment)...... All those teen males in Calais, how many are you taking in then zzzz?

Can your household budget stretch?

MaisyMooMoo · 24/01/2016 23:24

The fact is we don't have the resources/money to support an influx. Or rather we might but the government isn't prepared to spend it since they've made so many cuts in services already.

Also, after seeing what's happened in Germany and stories from other sources some are starting to wonder if our cultures can actually live together. Their views on women is certainly not the direction we need to be going.

VertigoNun · 24/01/2016 23:30

I seriously don't know how we can help all the children in the Jungle. Are there any unacompanied children that don't fit a teen male criteria? They are very difficult to place in fc.

MistressDeeCee · 24/01/2016 23:31

Im mildly curious that France are shirking their responsibility to refugees - who are after all on French european soil ie the country of their arrival so refugee claims should be dealt with and processed in France - and the fact it mostly doesn't appear to be picked up on that there is a reason UK are allowing France to shirk their legal duty in this way but, we won't know why

Political games play with people's lives All Cameron will do is bluster as per usual in an attempt to look important and organised. France has no respect for his all mouth and no substance so the games will continue.

Im not against refugees being taken into UK mind you. But non-Muslim refugees are treated entirely differently, there is NO WAY you can land in France or any other European country and be allowed to camp out until you reach the UK. Even if by some miracle you managed to get here you'd be put back on that plane to claim asylum in the country where you 1st touched European soil

France doesn't want any more Muslims entering, UK in the meantime is trying to fool people into thinking something rational is going on to resolve this issue. It won't resolve until UK gives in and takes in all the asylum seekers in Calais and grants them refugee status. As it stands I think under 18s, say aged 16 who have siblings in UK can now come here. Im thinking they may as well let all Calais claimants in, what other outcome can there be anyway? However I dislike the fact that asylum seekers from other places are not given the same access to UK

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SonyaAtTheSamovar · 24/01/2016 23:32

Zzzz you were advocating making the current situation work somehow by just taking everyone in.

Be prepared then for the millions who get the message that the way to the UK is by getting to Calais by any means. Or sending their child to Calais.

Look at what happened when Merkel said the German people who would make it work. Even more folk set out on a hazardous journey.

I think we could and should reach out more to those who are being persecuted in Iraq and Syria and who feel they need to leave. Rather than having a survival of the fittest scenario as played out now and encouraged by Open Borders activists.

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 24/01/2016 23:38

zzzzzz you still haven't said how this is all going to be accomadation and where/when we should say enough,no more

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MaisyMooMoo · 24/01/2016 23:48

Zzz...are you taking the leap and being bold? How many are you taking in?

KC225 · 24/01/2016 23:50

The kinder transport was in 1939 and the population of the UK was 46.5million. Today the UK population is 64.1 with a continuing ageing population.

Here in Sweden there was a recent report on Refugees given permanent status within the last 10 years. 50% were found to be unemployed and I know the flip side is 50% are in employment but it's an awfully high figure still in need of government help and unable to contribute to the tax pool to fund future immigration.

It's a tough one. No one wants to see children and adults pulled lifeless from the sea but an open door policy is not feasible.

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 24/01/2016 23:53

zzzz I have my own children, and I work. I'm not around to care for a traumatised child. I can barely afford new school shoes. We budget carefully.

An unknown teen male living in my home? No thanks.

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SonyaAtTheSamovar · 24/01/2016 23:53

But I wouldn't let the child phone home and encourage his siblings to make a life endangering journey.

Merkel decided to do as you suggest zzzz and has IMO provoked a far worse situation.

MaisyMooMoo · 24/01/2016 23:54

zzzz their cultural beliefs are extremely important. What they believe has to fit in with our laws. We won't allow them to rape and assault women because we allegedly ask for it in the way we dress. That attitude will not be tolerated. And whilst I accept it is only a minority that have committed these crimes it is important for us to deal with it and send the message to others that it's not on.

SonyaAtTheSamovar · 24/01/2016 23:58

Individuals can follow their own moral code but a government has to be pragmatic and hard headed where necessary.

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HelenaDove · 25/01/2016 00:03

I absolutely think we should help. But at the same time there is a little voice in the back of my head saying that welcoming men who have a misogynistic mindset at the same time as there is a high risk of DV refuges closing is a perfect storm.

That voice has been growing louder since NYE.

And having been brought up with Catholicism i do understand misogyny and the link with culture.

SonyaAtTheSamovar · 25/01/2016 00:05

Stopping that sea journey is the critical issue isn't it?

SonyaAtTheSamovar · 25/01/2016 00:05

Not doing a Merkel and saying the door here is open.

VertigoNun · 25/01/2016 00:09

The walk is not great either. Yes the sea journey is the worst.

I am surprised there are no rubber boat attempts in the English channel.

MaisyMooMoo · 25/01/2016 00:12

zzz.