to ask someone to move their child out of my plane seat

[kipperssippers]

more of a WWYD then AIBU but...
i booked the seat by the window as i always do and when i got to my seat a child around 8 was in my seat with her mum beside her.
When i got there i told the mother that the window seat is my seat and she said her child wanted the window seat to look out, i then replied then you should of booked one.
I didnt want to cause a scene but the women made out i'm an arsehole for asking her kid to move as she had never been on a flight and wanted to look outside.
I did give in and stayed pissed off for 7 hours in my non window seat.

what would you of done in this situation?

Maid

You believe children should be taught to think everyone will treat them kindly. I hope they enjoy their lifetime of disappointment.

Can you do Automobiles next?

Kipper/Cats whoever

To say that Londoners are rude or cold because of your one rather biased experience is rather rude in itself, cats
I speak as a Londoner who does not live there at the moment but i expect to again soon.
As well as 'native' Londoners, the 'Londoners' you are liable to meet on public transport are made up of tourists, ex-pats, people up ftom the country for a day's outing, those who have moved there from other towns and villages in Britain, and those who have moved there permanently from other countries.
In fact there is a far higher proportion of all these latter kinds of people in London than in any other part of the UK.
To suggest they are all cold, unhelpful, rude etc is a ridiculous generalisation. However, I am pleased to see that we Londoners don't put up with entitled twattery.

goodnight Hurrah for flexible, tailored approaches that reflect the context and desired outcomes!

Disclaimer: I'm not even a parent! Isn't it obvious though?

kind? respectful?

You weren't kind or respectful to others in the train and you aren't here.
Never mind. You're on your way to another 1000 post thread. I expect that's what you wanted.

sooty as I have said multiple times, in that instance I would have liked people to be considerate to me. Obviously that's too much to ask though isn't it.

I'm going to Birmingham at the weekend - it's where I come from.

Fuck me - I think I'll go to Scotland instead

I know what you would have liked. It's a one way street with you. You didn't care if people were trapped on that train and missed their stop.

No it isn't a one way street. I in most circumstances am considerate to others. In that situation I was struggling and needed someone to be considerate to me.

I expect the same that I give

But you'll believe what you want regardless of what I say

So you expect people to show you consideration but are not prepared to be considerate to others.
OK

If you expect the same as you give you're in for an unpleasant time.
How utterly lacking in self awareness you are.

Awad

Have you even read my posts? I'm considerate to others most of the time so if I'm having a day where I'm struggling I would like others to be considerate to me

Why is that hard

I think that on balance I prefer the normal consideration that most people show in their day-to-day lives, rather than showy acts of kindness from people who then make themselves into a massive inconvenience when it suits them.

Being willing to give up a seat to a child on a long-haul flight is a one-off. Being aware of your surroundings, not being stubborn about your rights, not expecting everyone else to accommodate you when you're being a pain in the neck - those are the everyday acts of normal, instinctive consideration that keep the world functioning.

I wouldn't have given up my seat if I'd booked and paid for it. I would want to sleep without being constantly disturbed and I'd be pretty hacked off at the mother implying I was unreasonable for that. She had the same option to pay for a seat reservation as anyone else. If she chose not to do so then she alone is responsible for any upset. There seems to be a growing culture of blame, and it does seem to be obvious in many parents - if their child is upset, someone else must be responsible.

Personal responsibility and self-sufficiency are pretty vital if we're not all going to spend our lives as stressed, angry-at-the-world, wilting flowers who can't function without everyone else needing to part around us like the Red Sea.

So Cat you are special and your needs should be considered first if your struggling even if it is of massive inconvenience to others beacue you helped an old lady off a bus once.
As I said before
OK.

I was going to start a thread about my Flight (and fight) on Tuesday, but I think I'd be accused of doing a TAAT now.

So anyway I had similar happen, only it was an aisle seat that I had paid for (Ryanair) as I have a bad knee and if it locks I can't walk and would be in pain for weeks.

It was a man sat in my seat and tried to argue that I should give it to him as he had longer legs. . . .

No way mate!

When the staff got involved we were told by them that legally you have to sit in your assigned seat fro take off and landing and if they move people they have to update the manifest straight away. Don't know if they were telling porkies. . . .

He tried to huff and puff at me all flight but I had 2 large vodkas wrapped my very warm scarf around me and slept.

My friend who was in the other aisle seat, told me about the huffing
She hadn't paid to book a seat, knowing that I tend to sleep on planes so we weren't bothered about sitting next to each other, she said that she was going to offer but when he was so rude thought Sod him!

He did make one or two very rude personal comments.

Why could you have not just given him what he wanted Bad.
He might have been struggling :-)

Have you even read my posts? I'm considerate to others most of the time so if I'm having a day where I'm struggling I would like others to be considerate to me

Maybe all those people on the train were struggling that day and would have liked someone (you) to be considerate adhere to the rules about not blocking train exits?

Maybe OP was having struggling and would have liked to have sat in her pre-booked plane ticket without being made to feel like an unreasonable, child hating meanie?

Etc, etc.

With the train it was a physical struggle that there was little room. There wasn't much I could do. Luckily one or two people said to me afterwards that the room for buggies on the train is crap and helped me get off

If OP needed the window seat because she's disabled she could have said. Otherwise it's just to spite the other person

Shall I compare thee to a Londoner?
Thou art more stroppy and more irate
Rough winds do shake the structure of your pram
And full threads have all too short a date.

(sorry, but if you're determined to hit 1000 I'm going to keep on in the hope of creating some sort of MN Lorelei Laureate).

If OP needed the window seat because she's disabled she could have said. Otherwise it's just to spite the other person

That's a massive leap. Could it possibly just be because she wanted that particular seat? The one she'd specifically chosen?

There is a perfectly normal middle ground between 'disabled' and 'evil, cackling child-hater.'

It was a man sat in my seat and tried to argue that I should give it to him as he had longer legs.

Does Ryanair have an option to pre book seats with more leg room?

I'm shortly to embark on a (very) long haul flight for work. Seat duly pre booked. If any chancer child or long limbed person attempts to commandeer my seat they will be told in no uncertain terms exactly where to fuck.

Luckily, I am utterly dead to tuts, sighs, pointed remarks or glares.

Cannot stand strict cats bum faced bores

Nor the "middle class" nor "middle aged snooty types" either, apparently

Seems "young people and elderly people" pass the helpfulness test, though ... but hang on a minute, what if that young or elderly person happens to be middle class as well??

If OP needed the window seat because she's disabled she could have said. Otherwise it's just to spite the other person

Why do you feel people have to justify using something that they've actually paid for if someone else takes it without asking first?