to ask someone to move their child out of my plane seat

[kipperssippers]

more of a WWYD then AIBU but...
i booked the seat by the window as i always do and when i got to my seat a child around 8 was in my seat with her mum beside her.
When i got there i told the mother that the window seat is my seat and she said her child wanted the window seat to look out, i then replied then you should of booked one.
I didnt want to cause a scene but the women made out i'm an arsehole for asking her kid to move as she had never been on a flight and wanted to look outside.
I did give in and stayed pissed off for 7 hours in my non window seat.

what would you of done in this situation?

Spot on Hiho My dd is 16 and thinks the world revolves around her.

if you treat a child with kindness love and respect you get a child who is kind and loving and respectful.

What is "kind, loving and respectful" about a child who just expects total strangers to pander to their whims, regardless of the inconvenience/discomfort it causes them?

Just wait till you have a stroppy teen Cats. Your view might well be different then. The peace man love and respect no boundaries have what you want when you want thing might be your biggest regret!

And for the person above you don't get to dictate to someone what their identity is sorry

Not dictating what you think your identity is

You hold a BRITISH passport. That is partly your nationality.

Identify as a unicorn if you like however your passport and documentation that allows you to travel and live in the UK says something different.

As I say. If you don't identify or think you are English give up your passport

if you treat a child with kindness love and respect you get a kind respectful child
Bullshit! These are words spoken by someone who has not had to deal with a teenager

Ha ha ha I have 4 kids chick, 25,24.16.15.. Never had to come down on them like a tonne of bricks

They learned to respect others, help others and never be entitled.

None of them so much as dreaned of asking for other people's food or demanding things that arnt theirs.

They were well brought up and are splendid happy helpful sucessful brummies.
Seriously love you should stop now as you are just inventing things.

Cats that's reassuring. The DT's parents didn't think that though. They were effectively demanding we made our journey less pleasant so that their DTs had a better experience (sitting on parents laps) because they hadn't reserved the seats they really wanted. Same as in the OP see?

The whims of a child do not trump everything.

If the child fancied looking out I would offer to swap to the aisle seat.

If the child and mother had just taken the seat that would be another matter!

Oh, Cats, I can't wait until your baby grows up and you're back on MN begging for advice on how to handle your threenager, then your school-refusing 8 yo, then your bratty teenager.

You think you know how children learn when there are countless books and studies that say the opposite. My baby's still cooking and even I'm not as naive as you.

Seriously, how old are you? (Or, should I say, how old have you decided the character of Cats to be in this screenplay you're writing?)

Why do people keep giving Cats the attention?? Stop feeding it and it will go away.

Not much of a screenplay Darth there is no clue
Congrats on your bump btw

I'm case it is remotely useful, I am going to offer some genuine advice cats.

Children do not know anything. They are born ignorant and it is our job as parents to educate them. Reaching them kindness is a good thing. Teaching them to expect kindness is not.

There is a huge difference.

I've been reading this for hours, it's moved on much faster than I could read it! The children's dinner is late, I haven't emptied the dishwasher ...

For what it's worth I'm in the majority in that if you've booked and paid for a seat then you should have it and it's not on to pander to children/parents when they've just assumed that their child can take a seat, any seat.

I'm not sure whether or not it's been asked yet, I don't think it has but I'd like to ask cats ... What nationality is your DH/DP and also, where the bloody hell is your baby? He's an awfully good sleeper if he's allowed you to be on MN for so long!

I don't remember FA from when I was 8.

And my PayPal account is still empty. My children's joy is quashed! We even go on a budget to Premier Inn (we do have the breakfast) - we bring our portable electric cooler and electric coolbox and cook dinner in the room.

No way are you being unreasonable I can't believe anyone thinks you are. The only thing I might have done is let her sit there for 10 minutes at some point but there is no way you should have given up your seat.
Yes it would have been nice, so are lots of things and I'm sure you do plenty of nice things not to have to give up something you've booked and paid for especially. Rude mum.

So many wise insightful posters on here. So agree with teaching children. They have to be taught right from wrong, fairness, kindness, sharing, how to cope with testing friendships, when to give in and when to stand your ground, letting others win at something even if it hurts, . The list is endless. Cats thinks it is just one rule. Kindness and respect and everything will be alright. Hate to tell you Cats, but there is far more to parenting than that and as a mother of 3 now adults I think I'm in a position to say that.

Yes teaching them right from wrong is important but you do that by being kind respectful and loving. Liberal educated parenting is vastly superior to authoritarian bollocks

Cannot stand strict cats bum faced bores.

'Liberal educated parenting'

Can that go on the list with
'A child joy'

Please?

Hear hear Rousette

A sense of humour goes a long way too in parenting and smugness has no place. Think on cats

Nice false dichotomy.

Parenting is sometimes liberal and sometimes strict. I suspect a middle ground is the most successful.

This thread will be full soon. Wonder which one Cats will create and then take over next?

Liberal parenting is one approach. "Authoritarian" parenting is another. I would say "Flexible" parenting, which employs elements of both of the previous, as required by the situation and the reactions of the child, is the "superior" approach.

By confining oneself to one approach, that's just as strict. Also, really don't see how the mother acted "respectfully" in this situation.

'Child's'

Is Cat back to Kippers