To not get schools issue with dyed hair?

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I suspect I may get flamed for this but I genuinely do not get it.
They have a rule against earrings including sleepers. That I get especially with younger children or in sports were children can end up getting them at worst ripped out.

I can kind of even get extreme haircuts with big shaved stars or strange styles that look unprofessional and might not be allowed by adults in a professional work place.

But this week and last term several of senior age children who had dyed hair brown/red/dark purple etc were sent home from school to re dye or put in isolation by teachers with errr brown/red/purple dyed hair! One of the children's teacher has bright purple hair. It does not make her any less of a English teacher or lesson her professionalism in school I don't reckon so what is the problem for teens?

Pieceofpurplesky, your posts are quite aggressive.
In case you want examples- read your posts.

Very huffy aren't they Felicity? I wonder if any of them are the types of teachers who go enforce the silly rules with zeal.

Maybe felicity because of the absolute indignity some of us teachers feel about lord's comments. This thread as ever just turned in to a teacher bashing one. Teachers do not make the rules just uphold them - as everyone does in their own jobs. It seems like any teacher with an opinion that thinks that uniform is a bad thing is just told they are wrong. Not aggressive posts by the way just to the point - I don't waffle!

I hope you don't teach English.

Lord I uphold the rules because they are the rules of my place of work. Very few children challenge the rules and those that do are dealt with in registration before the even reach their classrooms. Not huffy at all. Just gobsmacked that an adult can think like you do that it is acceptable to be so disrespectful of the rules of a school. As many many poster have said to you homeschool or change if you want your child to thrive in one of the fantastic schools this country has.

I do actually Lord. Very well as a matter of fact. My pupils get excellent results, always achieving well above target - but in a forum like this typing on my phone I don't always proof read.

I dont think it turned into a teacher bashing thread.
Challenging and disagreeing with some people's views is not "bashing"
Yes, some of your posts are aggressive, no, not just concise, but rude.

There's upholding the rules and then there's upholding the rules.

"How can anyone not sense the ridiculously defensive and stubborn tone here from some teachers' posts?"

More so from some of the parents posting.

"I hope you don't teach English."

going for the player and not the ball, the tactic of someone that has no real argument.

Not more so, no.
Although I agree that comment was a bit personal.

If you think so Felicity I apologise but I have got so ridiculously wound up by Lord and his attitude. I am compact in my writing and also there has been a lot of negativity and generalisation towards all teachers on here.

"Just gobsmacked that an adult can think like you do that it is acceptable to be so disrespectful of the rules of a school."

Gasp! The rules of a school! Imagine an adult being disrespectful towards something so sacrosanct. Do you have any idea how you are coming across?

"going for the player and not the ball, the tactic of someone that has no real argument."

This player has taken quite a few hits, and I didn't see you complaining.

"but in a forum like this typing on my phone I don't always proof read.

Must be hard to type through the rage.

Also Felicity have you read the things Lord has said? Would you like your child's education disrupted by someone storming in to the class, no doubt scaring the kids, stopping the lesson, safeguarding issues being put into action based on an intruder - all because they don't feel their child should be punished for breaking the school rules?

Although it was amusing.
Especially after rafts of "Ihope I never have to teach your child"
"You really don't get kids do you" to math (after an excellent post btw)
"all this complaining to the authorities will get you laughed at"

Just in the last half hour.

At least Lord I am not coming across like a spoilt child stamping their foot because they don't like the fact that in life a line is there to be toed and there are consequences if you don't.

Surely you must follow the rules in life ... Speeding, stealing ...

"there has been a lot of negativity and generalisation towards all teachers on here."

Another falsehood. Where's your integrity?

"At least Lord I am not coming across like a spoilt child stamping their foot"

Good one!

No need to apologise to me.
Yes, I have rtft.
I have made my position quite clear and I think it's a pretty moderate position tbh.

I have learned stuff from this thread.
I am far less in favour of uniform (although it helps me to not have to choose clothes for DCs) than I was previously. The arguments against are quite compelling and I surpise myself with that view.

Felicity all of those comments were in response to other comments.
I hope I never have to teach your child in response to Lord's comments on storming in to school and entering a classroom to make a teacher teach his child properly. Quite a justified comment in context.
You really don't get kids do you in response to the comment that kids are bothered about being de-feminised by school uniform - my comment was followed by the only issue I had ever had was boys campaigning to be able to wear skirts to highlight that kids don't care.
All these complaints to the authorities will get you laughed at in response to Lord saying if his child ever got given a detention for a rule he thinks is stupid then he would go straight to the authorities - who would not take him seriously at all - he would have signed up to that school and those rules

Lord I am full of integrity. I am a teacher - you can't be a good one without it.

And felicity my view is actually the same as yours in that uniform helps me having to work out what DS has to wear for school. My point is as a teacher I uphold the rules of the school. Regardless of whether people don't agree with them or not.

I was already aware of the context of the comments I quoted when I made that post.

A uniform with shirt and tie and blazer is not masculine?
The reason you don't see that many grown women out and about with gabardine suits in weird colours and striped ties is...?

Most suits designed for women tend to be feminine, nicely shaped, nice fabric, 'professional' yet fashionable-looking, and without a tie unless ties happen to be in. They come in a huge variety of styles and you can buy and wear whatever you feel flatters you best. By contrast, school uniform for girls tends to be ugly, shapeless, often garishly coloured, and completely unlike anything worn by anyone else in society outside of convents.

You do see the school uniform shirt and tie and skirt outfits at Halloween ('naughty schoolgirl' costumes) which is yet another reason to examine the purpose of uniform, for girls as well as boys. It seems forcing girls to wear the western equivalent of the burqa has not deterred those really determined to objectify them, and girls' uniforms have taken on a life of their own. It is always a good idea to look at unintended consequences and ask if certain choices have caused issues or fly in the face of other objectives that are more important than the problems the uniform solution sets out to cure.

By this I mean the issue of objectification of girls and women, the issue of girls' confidence in advanced maths and science class, and inclusiveness helping girls understand that it is ok to like nail polish and makeup and fashion and physics, and above all but much more importantly, helping boys understand that wearing nail polish and makeup and clothes that flatter, being conventionally 'feminine' in general, doesn't mean a girl is not their equal academically and in all other ways too. It is what uniform tells boys about girls that is really dangerous.

(I flatter myself that I do actually 'get' kids. I have five of them, now aged 14 to 25, and I regularly entertain their friends. Mine have not only been to a non uniform school but also to one where they wore uniform. I know which one they preferred, which one they dressed for with care, and which one had a little problem with out of uniform day, issues related to comments by certain children about the appearance of others.)

... A uniform that is not just attractive but clearly practical