To not get schools issue with dyed hair?

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I suspect I may get flamed for this but I genuinely do not get it.
They have a rule against earrings including sleepers. That I get especially with younger children or in sports were children can end up getting them at worst ripped out.

I can kind of even get extreme haircuts with big shaved stars or strange styles that look unprofessional and might not be allowed by adults in a professional work place.

But this week and last term several of senior age children who had dyed hair brown/red/dark purple etc were sent home from school to re dye or put in isolation by teachers with errr brown/red/purple dyed hair! One of the children's teacher has bright purple hair. It does not make her any less of a English teacher or lesson her professionalism in school I don't reckon so what is the problem for teens?

you really don't get kids do you
OMG! Are you defending that?
Because, what? You, as a teacher, are the oracle on children.
Astonishing.
I am not convinced there was any storming into school planned, certainly not into "your" school and not to the point that the police would be called.

The pupils/students in "your" schools are children.
Most of them have parents who love them.
Sometimes I read posts that make me wonder if that is dismissed or driven out peoe's mimds.

Another superb post math

LordBrightside
"This player has taken quite a few hits, and I didn't see you complaining."

You may have been called rude, which was taken back, other than that what "hits" have you taken?

You haven't been called incoherent, anti-social, a liar and it hasn't been inferred that you are bad at your job.

Nor has anyone threatened to harass you in your work place for doing your job.

Now, stop distracting me. i have work to do.

math

I am one who is against uniform. I can honestly say I have never thought about it as deeply as you have and you have really opened my eyes. so thank you. your posts are extremely interesting and thought provoking.

the DM sad faves 99 percent of the time is a girl who's Been sent home fir her skirt being too short or trousers to tight. you are so right. it's all about girls having to dress modestly.

And given dd is at the age where she doesn't like her pants on show etc, and wanting to wear shorts under her skirts, well that's not a message received from me.tats something she's received from school she's never been made to "cover up" at home

She will never make it as an ice skater if she doesn't show her pants giles

Felicity - lord said he would get his child out of isolation, March/storm/steam (can't remember his actual word) in to the class and demand his child was taught. In my school police would be called for this as it is a safeguarding issue - people cannot do that. Why have you put your in "" ? I refer to "my school" as easier than typing the school I work in, as I would say my home, my car, my son ...
Out of context my comment to math looks wrong but in context it explains itself that I was giving the opinions of children I teach ... Who had a campaign to wear skirts (and wore them on non uniform day). It was great and a really good way for the children to learn how to argue their case. They wrote persuasive letters to the head and delivered speeches.

And nowhere have I said anything that leads to your comment that you wonder if people have dismissed the idea that these are children. Read all my comments - it is the parents on here I have had an issue with. I think the hundreds of children I have taught not one would say I didn't put them first (even the child who once threw a chair at me when I stepped in between him and a boy he was about to punch). I work tirelessly for these children - but would still put a child in isolation with blue hair because the rules of the school say that is not allowed. If it was allowed - no problem.
And I am on here as I am doing anything to avoid the 64 mock exam papers in my desk

It is pretty outrageous that a child would be isolated from their peers becasue of their hairstyle.
I can see why a parent would have an issue with that tbh.
I am not a fan of getting all huffy about school rules but I absolutely would not stand by and see my child be treated improperly.

She's a pretty good gymnastics actually felicity But she does wear leggins.

strangely at home her and dd2 are like the McPoyles with the gaping dressing gown and underwear.

giles

Math I get where you are coming from with saying that girls are objectified. You could say the same for naughty nurses, dirty doctors, sexy policewomen etc. It shouldn't happen but there are some sick People in the world that do this.
I guess I am lucky in the fact girls here wear fitted blouses not shirts and the skirts are 'skater style'. They are also allowed tights and trousers. The blazers are navy blue so not a horrible colour. They look really smart and like the uniform. The shoe of fashion at the moment is brogue style. Ties are in the house colour. The only thing they have to buy from school is a blazer - as I mentioned earlier there are payment plans in place etc. So our pupils all look similar - despite the array of non extreme hair dye used (and the fake tan). On the older girls minimum make up is allowed but wear bright red lipstick and they will be asked to remove it.
I don't think any of them are desexualised by having to remove nail varnish ( those gel talons can cause some damage).
I apologise for the comment insinuating you don't know children - it was more about school children liking their uniforms than your own children.

Thanks everyone.
I have to get to bed. Very early start and will fit for nothing.

Felicity - the parent knows the rule though and the consequences. There has to be a line somewhere .... It is usually a one day thing and hair returned to normal the next day. It is not perfect but it works - in the school where I work we have very few issues now as the kids know what will happen and prefer to be in lessons. Same with extreme piercings (am talking eye brow, cheek, lip etc) and those hideous spacer earrings (they creep me out - personal thing).

But why is bright red lipstick an issue.

On an 11 year old girl at school? On an adult out and about town great - but a child? In a classroom?
A simple whisper in the ear and a discreet tissue handed and it is gone.

But why is bright red lipstick an issue.

Logically it shouldn't be, which is why so many schools go for no make-up at all.

"You may have been called rude, which was taken back, other than that what "hits" have you taken?"

I have had my views wilfully misrepresented, accused of being a keyboard warrior, a poor parent etc etc. You weren't worried about people playing the man rather than the ball then.

I'm n9 fab of chemicals in skin where there need be none but lipstick on a chikd is just lipstick on a chikd. any in appropriateness comes from the adults projecting. not from a child who grabbed a lipstick. I mean we all wore dodgy orange foundations and bad make up when we started wearing the damn stuff.

if you were somehow trying to teach a life lesson about not being a slave to how you think people want you to look then fair enough but to see lipstick on a child and see it as anything disruptive or inappropriate then surely the problem.is you akd not the lipstick?

sorry fir typos. it's late

"March/storm/steam (can't remember his actual word) "

None of these. Another falsehood. Where's that integrity?

"Every minute a teacher spends dealing with this is a minute taken away from teaching and learning."

Then turn a blind eye to the stupider rules. Plenty of teachers do.

To do this would be to undermine my colleagues and break the conditions of my employment.

"but would still put a child in isolation with blue hair because the rules of the school say that is not allowed."
Isolate, punish or disrupt my child's education my child in any way on account of his hair colour and you'll end up wishing you hadn't bothered. And so will your headmaster.

I would do my nut, insist you complied with your legal obligation to educate my child and make every official complaint imaginable.

Giles I would have no problem with a pale lipstick or gloss. Red lipstick is just not suitable for a girl in school and not necessary. Maybe I am projecting but I would not let my daughter (if I had one) wear it to school. To be fair I have only ever encountered it a couple of times (both year 7s). Most girls are dipping in to cup cake shaped lip gloss! The one thing schools do need to teach us rings of foundation on the face are not needed - blend girls, blend.

"To do this would be to undermine my colleagues and break the conditions of my employment."

The principle is worth it, if you have any.