To not get schools issue with dyed hair?

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I suspect I may get flamed for this but I genuinely do not get it.
They have a rule against earrings including sleepers. That I get especially with younger children or in sports were children can end up getting them at worst ripped out.

I can kind of even get extreme haircuts with big shaved stars or strange styles that look unprofessional and might not be allowed by adults in a professional work place.

But this week and last term several of senior age children who had dyed hair brown/red/dark purple etc were sent home from school to re dye or put in isolation by teachers with errr brown/red/purple dyed hair! One of the children's teacher has bright purple hair. It does not make her any less of a English teacher or lesson her professionalism in school I don't reckon so what is the problem for teens?

Of course teachers have to police the rules - I would never do anything other than support this (and nonsense about some kind of commando raid on the school to undermine the teacher's decisions shows that it's actually necessary to say this). That's why I would like the rules to be as few, and as sensible, as possible.

To be fair, I have a couple of weird rules of my own (chest covered at the dinner table, no red with purple) but I don't expect anyone else to police them.

Perhaps I should say I would feel equally ill- at -ease with parents or pupils getting all "how very dare you" about appropriate rules.

Irate???

If you gave some examples, it would help.

However, the only heat I could imagine being generated is the irritation about the hours of time it takes to deal with both parents and children, who elect to flout the rules of the school they signed up for.

I detest school uniforms and hair rules, but there are ways to get these changed without bringing it to the classroom. Every minute a teacher spends dealing with this is a minute taken away from teaching and learning.

No, there are not always ways to get these changed without bringing it to the classroom.
And yes, some posts have been quite irate.
The examples are there for all to read.
Sorry, Have to run, work to do, so please don't think I am willfully ignoring any remarks.

Felicity so you agree with the poster who plans to refuse to
Follow every rule his child has to follow and plans to storm in to the classroom if his son is ever punished? That is what most teachers got uptight about.

"who elect to flout the rules of the school they signed up for."

Perish the thought. How ghastly.

"Every minute a teacher spends dealing with this is a minute taken away from teaching and learning."

Then turn a blind eye to the stupider rules. Plenty of teachers do.

pieceofpurplesky
If you think I agree with refusing to allow any rules to be followed then you are mistaken and have not read my posts.

"Felicity so you agree with the poster who plans to refuse to
Follow every rule his child has to follow and plans to storm in to the classroom if his son is ever punished? That is what most teachers got uptight about"

Not my position. Why lie?

Only the stupid rules will be ignored. Other rules are fine.

But no,I won't accept a school "punishing" my child.

So the issue is that pupils may not cause "disruption" by their appearance being notable? It makes no sense.

Indeed -- there is a serious issue here: is students' appearance really responsible for other students' inability to concentrate? This is the same thinking that is behind the enforced wearing of the burqa in Saudi Arabia, and it is a really dangerous message to send to all concerned when you translate it into the reality of mixed classrooms.

The effect of strict uniform enforcement on girls needs to be examined. On the one hand girls are told 'my body, my choice', nobody has the right to comment on your personal appearance, 'slut shaming' and 'fat shaming' are wrong, and on the other hand girls in their formative years are expected to submit their personal appearance to the approval of people in authority, and decisions on what is appropriate will be made on the basis of whether they distract others.

The question of uneven application of rules needs to be examined -- are girls singled out more than boys for uniform infractions; are some teachers in every school known to be stricter or more lenient than others? If girls wearing makeup for instance are punished, then surely the argument about preparation for the workplace falls flat.

Also in dire need of examination is the implication that students are not to be held responsible for their own failure to concentrate. Surely the whole point of a school environment is to ensure that each student takes responsibility for his or her own work or failure to work? Maybe I have been spoiled by the expectations I have seen of student conduct in the American context. Reflecting on the differences in philosophy between the systems as I see them, the one big area is infantilising of students in the British context, as epitomised by the function of uniform.

And another message we send to girls who wear a uniform that consists of shirt and tie and blazer, with the only difference between that and the boys' uniform being the skirt boys are going to look like men in their uniform, whereas girls are definitely not going to look like the majority of grown women in theirs. Girls' uniforms are designed to desexualise them. They look like the 'Adam's rib' of clothing an adapted version of what the boys wear. The message that boys and all things masculine belong in the academic environment whereas girls are only allowed there as long as they hide all evidence of femininity is a dangerous one and contributes to making girls and boys alike look down on the feminine.

Agree math

FelicityFunknickle
"On this thread however, there have been several exampes of people getting irate about pupils and parents daring to challenge the status quo."

by daring to challenge the status quo, you mean forcing there way in to school and disrupting the learning and environment of others?

Or by not supporting their child in not going to an after school detention for disrupting the learning of others?

great posts math

Lord I am beyond conversing with you and as I have said previously I really hope I never have to teach your child as if he has your attitude he will be unteachable - and I have never met an unteachable child

Math you really don't get kids do you? The biggest uniform outrage I have come across is when boys campaigned to be able to wear skirts as girls could wear trousers (in jest). Are you saying that women never where suits or trousers ... Of course you aren't - women in the workplace and at school tend to have more options when it comes to clothes.

A suit it not masculine and most of the girls live their ties

You lied. That's that.

piece wow, that's pretty rude of you to math. Take a look at what she (rightly, imo) says about girls' uniform and extend that to the workplace.

I don't know why some parents can't accept that teachers don't make the rules and are often not in a position to ignore instructions to enforce them.

Lord - where did I lie?

The argument that uniforms prepare pupils for work is specious and, I suspect of relatively recent vintage. In a world where education has been reduced to a service for industry/business, the argument carries more weight than it ought.

In Australia, the mania for uniforms is at fever pitch, and, particularly in the private sector which is big here, they almost vie for least practical uniform.

Look at these little would-be workers:

"the poster who plans to refuse to
Follow every rule his child has to follow "

And river - just replying in the same style math has replied previously. Girls are not made to feel masculine and hide their femininity just as a woman in a business suit is not.

Every rule discussed here on this thread you have disputed and said you will not allow your child to follow. I am sure I could list a few more rules that you would refuse to follow. For what it's worth a parent storming in to a classroom in my school would be escorted out by the police. And all this complaining to the authorities will result in you being laughed at.
Hopefully you will grow up by the time your child is actually old enough to go to school.

How can anyone not sense the ridiculously defensive and stubborn tone here from some teachers' posts?