To not get schools issue with dyed hair?

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I suspect I may get flamed for this but I genuinely do not get it.
They have a rule against earrings including sleepers. That I get especially with younger children or in sports were children can end up getting them at worst ripped out.

I can kind of even get extreme haircuts with big shaved stars or strange styles that look unprofessional and might not be allowed by adults in a professional work place.

But this week and last term several of senior age children who had dyed hair brown/red/dark purple etc were sent home from school to re dye or put in isolation by teachers with errr brown/red/purple dyed hair! One of the children's teacher has bright purple hair. It does not make her any less of a English teacher or lesson her professionalism in school I don't reckon so what is the problem for teens?

The point is most people don't introduce themselves as Dr smith

Lord - in regards to the no detentions; you may want to take that up with the DfE (page 6)

Lord, the other thing is, what do you instruct your child to call an adult who introduces themselves as 'Mrs X', because that is what she likes to be called.

To give a personality to this example, I offer you my DM - an elderly lady of slightly Victorian demeanor, who is known as 'Mrs surname' to absolutely everyone except her close family. However well anyone knows her, she is Mrs surname. That is, to all intents and purposes, her name - and she is not unique amongst her generation.

You do not want your child to be rude - and to call her a name that is not her preferred name would be rude. But you want your child to call adults by their first name. What do you do?

"Lord, and of course you will accept the justice that the arrangement is reciprocal - e.g. if your son is rude to a teacher, the teacher is absolutely entitled to challenge him?"

Of course.

"Shouting and bawling' is now, IME, very rare in schools unless the situation is dangerous."

Very glad to hear it and that I'm unlikely to have that problem.

And why would they introduce themselves as Kevin if they weren't ok with being called that.

and even if as adults we call them dr Stevens, if they introduced themselves to your child as Kevin then of course your going to say " would you like to ask Kevin about playing football at school"

"Hang on. No detentions? Wow. Just, wow."

How do detentions prepare children for the world of work? Employers can't detail people against their will and it's an important principle to me that my son is not detained in such a way.

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Lord - in regards to the no detentions; you may want to take that up with the DfE (page 6)

I live in Scotland.

(Equally, as you will note from my reply to Mooney, i also prefer those who i do not know well, and who I have a formal relationship with, to address me as tMrs or Dr Tw2k. I would introduce myself that way, because that is my name. Do you instruct your child to over-ride this - or indeed do you yourself address me by my first name - which would be rude? My doctor asked how I would prefer to be addressed. We remain on formal terms.)

I'd find someone who asked to be called Mrs t quite standoffish. I'd respect it obviously but it would sound alien every time I said it.

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You do not want your child to be rude - and to call her a name that is not her preferred name would be rude. But you want your child to call adults by their first name. What do you do?"

I would encourage my child to utilise his judgement and if he wanted guidance i'd advise him to use her preferred name of Mrs.

Teachers aren't entitled to that preference. They are at work.

Possibly they don't prepare students for work, it's true. What they do accomplish is removing a disruptive student from a classroom so that everyone else can focus on their work.

How do you propose that schools discipline students while they are in their care?

"My doctor asked how I would prefer to be addressed. We remain on formal terms."

That has possibly reflected badly on you.

I would encourage my child to utilise his judgement and if he wanted guidance i'd advise him to use her preferred name of Mrs.

This seems like a retreat from your previous position.

"Possibly they don't prepare students for work, it's true. What they do accomplish is removing a disruptive student from a classroom"

Detention is after school.

Detentions are after school though so they're not removing the child from the class for everyone's benefit.

"My doctor asked how I would prefer to be addressed. We remain on formal terms."

That has possibly reflected badly on you.

That's only your opinion. For every one who would shudder at the idea of using Mrs. T, there is one who would shudder at using Sally. People are different.

"This seems like a retreat from your previous position."

You might think that, but it is not, and was qualified by my following statement which you have conveniently omitted.

And I at all times want to encourage decision making by my son. If he prefers to use Mr Mrs or whatever that is up to him but I believe that first names should be the standard in schools.

"I would encourage my child to utilise his judgement" Yes because children are known for their well balanced and carefully thought out judgements aren't they.

I think first names should be standard and you should have to ask to be addressed differently.

"How do you propose that schools discipline students while they are in their care?"

By advising parents of poor behaviour and suspending persistent miscreants. Dyed hair does not constituent miscreant.

They are if you treat them properly and don't patronise them long

Lord, luckily my doctor is entirely happy to treat me excellently regardless of the fact I call her Dr X and she calls me Dr Tw2K. It doesn't reflect badly on either of us, as far as I can see. Our relationship IS formal - her job is to treat me, mine is to accurately describe my symptoms and not waste her time. She is not my friend, and I am not hers.

"child to utilise his judgement" Yes because children are known for their well balanced and carefully thought out judgements aren't they."

Aha! Contempt for children, I thought as much.

So Lord, you are happy for your child to be disciplined through detention and suspension for 'poor behaviour', but not for dyed hair?

So there are a range of school rules that you are happy to have punished by detention, but one that you are not?

Ah, so you want the Dr to be reminded that you're a doctor too. Posturing. I understand.