To not get schools issue with dyed hair?

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I suspect I may get flamed for this but I genuinely do not get it.
They have a rule against earrings including sleepers. That I get especially with younger children or in sports were children can end up getting them at worst ripped out.

I can kind of even get extreme haircuts with big shaved stars or strange styles that look unprofessional and might not be allowed by adults in a professional work place.

But this week and last term several of senior age children who had dyed hair brown/red/dark purple etc were sent home from school to re dye or put in isolation by teachers with errr brown/red/purple dyed hair! One of the children's teacher has bright purple hair. It does not make her any less of a English teacher or lesson her professionalism in school I don't reckon so what is the problem for teens?

Let me guess, it's never the teacher who's the problem.

Lord, if you really want 'how school's work' to change - and you do seem to have a lot of unresolved anger towards your own schooling, which is very sad - then the best way to do it is through the appropriate channels, rather than individual defiance. Become a governor, respond to parent questionnaires, send polite and formal letters, canvas opinion amongst other parents, investigate what other schools do in order to be able to provide and present evidence. Those methods are MUCH more likely to be effective than a 1 man campaign lobbied via your poor son.

Lord, do you feel that your 2.5 year old is entitled to also address let's say, a consultant surgeon by his or her first name?

Lord, sometimes ity is the teacher who is the problem. Not every teacher clicks with every child, not every teacher is a good teacher (though there is much more scrutiny than there was a generation ago so genuinely poor teachers are rare).

But a child who is persistently rude and defiant, and a parent who is persistently rude and defiant and encourages their child to be the same... perhaps not the teacher's fault.

Thanks Mooney. I automatically address unknown adults as 'title + surname', and feel very uncomfortable being addressed by my first name by those who I do not know (I cringe when the hairdresser does, for example).

It's not a 'teacher thing' - it dates from much earlier than that, i=as I trained once my own children were in school. Perhaps it's a bit of a generational / upbringing thing?

Lord hasn't been rude though.

"then the best way to do it is through the appropriate channels, rather than individual defiance"

I disagree, but will pursue all available options such as those you have suggested if need be.

"Lord, do you feel that your 2.5 year old is entitled to also address let's say, a consultant surgeon by his or her first name?"

Of course.

When rules have a good reason I can understand. So something like:

Student: why do I have to tie my hair back, wear a lab coat and am not allowed to wear sandals in the lab?!
School: Because your hair might fall into the bunsen burner flame and catch light, especially if you have products on your hair. This potentially causes very nasty injuries. Similarly with falling into chemicals. The lab coat is to preotect your clothes from the chemicals you're using if they happen to splash on you. You mustn't wear sandals because if you spill a corrosive chemical on your feet you will potentially cause a lot of skin damage very quickly, leading to permanent scarring.

Student: why can't I have blonde hair with pink tips?
School: because we say so.

So I'd really love to know why dyed hair is seen as such a problem, because 8 pages of this thread and still no links to the scientific evidence proving that having silly coloured hair has a negative affect academically.

teacher why? It seems so strange to me, my name is my name why would I want to be called by my surname?

I always call people what they want to be called but I find it strange people like to be called by their surname. I also think it's a bit pretentious?

"Pink tips is classed as extreme as is a mohawk. Should 11/12/13 year olds be doing this anyway?"
Extreme!? It's just a fun artform in hair, so I'll throw the question back...why shouldn't they be doing it pieceofpurplesky?

"My thoughts are that your life is not solely work or school so unless their is good reason (conformity not being one of them) they shouldn't interfere with private life."
Totally agree, GreenGoth.

Mooney, just had a scan back through Lord's posts. I agree that 'rude' was a bit strong, though i am unsure whether "I certainly won't be giving him the impression that authority should be respected" means that he would bring up his child to be polite to all as a default?

Lord, do you feel that your 2.5 year old is entitled to also address let's say, a consultant surgeon by his or her first name?

I would hope that a dr/consultant would care more about putting a scared/sick/upset child at ease and gaining their trust than their title.

So Lord's child will be calling adults by their first name, not following any rules that their father doesn't agree with, not doing any detentions, and his father will be continually critical of teachers/other authority figures.

I think you're a keyboard warrior but if this is true, your child will be the child that all the other parents complain about, the one that takes up way to much of the teachers time, and the parent that does so too.

Glady, I'll be retired by the time they get to secondary school :)

Mooney, I don't know. I am simply describing my preference as you describe yours.

'Mrs Tx2k / Dr Tw2k / firstname' are all my names, as are various diminutives of my first name used by various friends and family, and Mum / Mummy for my children. Which of those names I feel most comfortable with depends on the type and closeness of the relationship I have with the other person. I suppose I would describe the feeling when someone who has a formal relationship with me addresses me as firstname as very similar to the one I would have if someone who calls me firstname used my parents' pet name for me, or someone who was not my child called me 'Mummy'. It's not the right name for that relationship IYSWIM?

teacher neither will I. I will bring him up to treat everyone nicely but not to specifically respect authority more than you would anyone else

"Lord hasn't been rude though"

Thank you. I wasn't rude at school and certainly won't bring my son up to be rude either.

However, I do not accept rudeness directed at me without challenging it, and was the same as a child. My son will be free to challenge rude behaviour directed at him, even if that behaviour is from a teacher.

I am glad to hear that standards have improved, teachers need to be professional. No rudeness and certainly no shouting and bawling in the workplace at vulnerable under 16s.

teacher I see what you mean. I personally like everyone to be informal with me so I struggle being called anything that's not my first name

I would hope that a dr/consultant would care more about putting a scared/sick/upset child at ease and gaining their trust than their title.

Was there something in my post that implied that I thought the doctor's title was more important than a child's care?

I'm just curious about what happens when the doctor says, 'Hi Lord Jr, I'm Mr. Smith'.

Does Lord at some point begin dropping hints to Lord Jr that he should in fact be addressing Mr. Smith as Jim, e.g. 'Lord Jr, I know you had some questions about whether you could swim after your surgery - do you want to ask Jim now?'

"So Lord's child will be calling adults by their first name, not following any rules that their father doesn't agree with, not doing any detentions, and his father will be continually critical of teachers/other authority figures. "

Correct.

Lord I agree you might find my thread on authority interesting! Lots of people who think the same

When I recently had surgery the anaesthetist introduced himself as Simon

Lord, and of course you will accept the justice that the arrangement is reciprocal - e.g. if your son is rude to a teacher, the teacher is absolutely entitled to challenge him?

'Shouting and bawling' is now, IME, very rare in schools unless the situation is dangerous. I have been known to shout 'leave the classroom QUICKLY' to the rest of the class when confronted by a chairthrowing child....

Hang on. No detentions? Wow. Just, wow.

When I recently had surgery the anaesthetist introduced himself as Simon

I've also had consultant level doctors introduce themselves using their first name, but that's besides the point of my question - right?