To not get schools issue with dyed hair?

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I suspect I may get flamed for this but I genuinely do not get it.
They have a rule against earrings including sleepers. That I get especially with younger children or in sports were children can end up getting them at worst ripped out.

I can kind of even get extreme haircuts with big shaved stars or strange styles that look unprofessional and might not be allowed by adults in a professional work place.

But this week and last term several of senior age children who had dyed hair brown/red/dark purple etc were sent home from school to re dye or put in isolation by teachers with errr brown/red/purple dyed hair! One of the children's teacher has bright purple hair. It does not make her any less of a English teacher or lesson her professionalism in school I don't reckon so what is the problem for teens?

As an observation, I am in Australia, and I find that my pupils always call me Ms echt, not Miss. I find it utterly charming, so much more polite, less peremptory than "Miss".

I couldn't agree more. 'Miss' sounds so sneery it took a while for me to work out that it wasn't borne of sarcasm when I saw it in Educating Essex or whatever. I grew up in the US and it was always "Mr. Smith" or "Mrs. Duncan" or whatever.

I got called "Mum" a fair few times, often hilarious when it's a hulking great 15 year old boy who is then mortally embarrassed. I also got called Sir often enough too (I really don't look masculine!). "Miss" never felt rude or peremptory to me, but that's what I called my teachers when I was at school - it seemed polite and respectful then.

So true, Apple.

The reverse in Au is that on answering the roll, they say "Yeah", not the "Yes, Miss" of the UK. I was when I first encountered this. Took me ages to see they meant no disrespect.

On the other hand I have never got used to the "Excuse me" when asking permission in Au. I want say, are you telling or asking?

Derailing, apologies.

The reverse in Au is that on answering the roll, they say "Yeah", not the "Yes, Miss" of the UK. I was shockangry when I first encountered this. Took me ages to see they meant no disrespect.

In the US it's 'here' which seems sensible.

'Yeah' is not great.

I wasn't clear there; I meant "excuse me" when pushing past, which sounds to me like "fuck off out of my way".

"Lord, of course you will do all of those things, and then be asked to take your child elsewhere."

And I might or might not refuse depending on the circumstances.

"Do you believe that, in all ways, children and adults are absolutely equal, in that all rights and responsibilities and rules that apply to adults, should also apply to children and vice versa? So that any distinction whatever is 'wrong' and should be challenged (e.g. every person on a bus must pay the same fare regardless of age)?"

Of course not. Children can't be allowed to gamble in bookmakers or but bottles of vodka. Adults can.

But children and adults alike should be able to have any hair colour they wish, especially with parental approval.

"Why do you object to it? What would you prefer?"

Children should address teachers by their first names. Like they do at nursery. And like people do at university and in the workplace.

Is it true that in some American high schools the teachers address the pupils as Miss X/Mr Y? It always made me smile when I read about it in books - it seemed such a charmingly respectful mode of address, compared to the brusque 'Smith/Jones/Brown/Peason/Molesworth' of the English public school.

It also gave another tone to John McEnroe's famous on-court quarrels in the 1980's: 'Warning: Mr McEnroe' ... must've made him feel like a naughty schoolboy.

Lord, how old is your son? How much of this very confident and aggressive 'theory' has he so far tried out in practice?

(No first names in my university while I was there, at least not for lecturers and above. The change came when I started my PhD.)

I quite often address my pupils with a smiling 'Miss / Mr Surname' .... works really well, especially if it is basically a 'please behave in a more adult fashion' warning...

You haven't said why.

In the workplace, people do not always address everyone by their first name.

Not that they shouldn't, but they don't.

Building on echt's point - you have said that children should address adults in school as adults address their peers. Why?

I'm with LordBrightside. At my sixth form college we called teachers by their first names. So much better.

Why is it better?

It humanises the teachers and makes it feel less formal and more like you're respected

That's better.

"Lord, how old is your son?"

I've already answered this.

"In the workplace, people do not always address everyone by their first name."

Other than schools, the police and the military, they do. In 20 years I have never once addressed a colleague or a manager as Mr or Mrs.

He's 2 and a half years of his daddy says he doesn't have to do what you say so basically, just go to hell.

"Why is it better?"

Because it is more like real life. Which schools are supposed to prepare people for.

What is the point/benefit of not allowing pupils to use teachers' first names?

Mooney, at sixth form, students ate 16+ - they are, to all intents and purposes, adults and have many of an adult's rights and responsibilities.

How far down the age range do you think first names are appropriate? Or do you think it should be the same for every child regardless of age?

Is there anyone that you address by title + surname? I call my doctor Dr Y, for example.

"He's 2 and a half years of his daddy says he doesn't have to do what you say so basically, just go to hell."

Incoherent and anti-social. I don't think we'll be taking any lessons from YOU.

[I suspect that in future years, a teacher is going to sit across the table from Lord, preparing to discuss issues with his son, and realise 'Ah, it's not the son who is the problem'. Happens a lot IME]

Teacher I think it should start from the beginning.

I address people how they prefer but by choice I would address everyone by their first name. I don't like being called "Ms Mooney".