To think these two girls should get a slap..

[Jenj1983]

for putting super glue onto the seat of a DISABLED toilet??!

Read the story earlier, apparently the two teens are aged 16-18, and some poor 4yo girl went in after them and had the skin ripped from the back of her legs!
No doubt these two little twats will get a lecture and a wrist slap.

"Let me guess, your one of those parents that uses naughty step and time out then wonders why your kid doesn't do what they are told."

I never found the naughty step particularly effective as it became a struggle to get a defiant child to sit on the naughty step.

Using superglue to make a defiant teen sit on the naughty step might be tempting, but a tad unethical.

That's a bloody good idea actually.

I was going to post the same as MummaV, about this actually being the only toilet open at times in McDonalds, Exeter.

There is also no lift to the upstairs toilets so, had the little girl's mum had a baby or pushchair with her, this toilet would have been the only one accessible to her.

What these two girls have done is absolutely disgraceful, and, as a mother of a 4 year old girl who has also used that particular toilet (due to upstairs being closed and DD being desperate for a wee) I have been pretty upset & shocked by the incident TBH. I can't comprehend the thought processes behind it, I really can't.

They were not necessarily targeting the disabled however. It may have been the only toilet 'available' for the prank.

IMO it should be dealt with as a criminal matter - not just a "don't be so stupid in the future" slap on the wrist. There needs to be a proper deterrent, the last thing we need is other idiots finding this funny and copying .

Well I most certainly am not a liberal leftie and agree that the criminal justice system needs to consider the needs of victims and relatives far more than it does at the moment.

However talking of slapping and kicking other people makes me feel sick.

If your methods of disciplining your kids and so lazy that you resort to slapping them then that should be a cause of shame to you as a parent.

You are modelling violent nasty and out of control behaviour and I bet you these girls were slapped ignored had bad role models as parents too.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

I take it you didn't get a slap for swearing and being rude then OP?

I have no problem with it being dealt with as a criminal matter and indeed I think it should be.
I do have a problem with trial by social media and people thinking it's fine to dole out vigilante justice and physical punishment. People like the OP would have been at home in the days of stoning, flogging, branding and drowning for witchcraft.

I bet you these girls were slapped ignored had bad role models as parents too.

Maybe and maybe not. Parents cannot control everything their kids do. And sometimes it's not down to nurture, just bad genes.

Teenagers do stupid things. They will be punished. I suspect it won't go to court, but probably cautioned. It will be on their records for posterity and will probably prevent them from working with kids when they are 40 odd because one error of judgment as a teenager makes them awful people for the rest of their lives doesn't it*.

I suspect they didn't think about the implications, just thought it would be funny to stick someone to the loo seat. No more than that, not hate crime, not targeting the disabled, just utter stupidity.

*for the avoidance of doubt I do not believe this

Let me guess, your one of those parents that uses naughty step and time out then wonders why your kid doesn't do what they are told.
I mean obviously you won't admit that but people like you are part of the problem

Was that aimed at me? First of all mumsnet isn't just for parents so don't make assumptions.
Secondly, using any discipline method inconsistently and ineffectively won't make children behave. I happen to believe that hitting children isn't a very good way of helping them to grow up to be well rounded members of society. If that makes me "part of the problem" so be it. I manage to keep order in classes of up to thirty teenagers at a time without resorting to punching them, but what do I know?

It is all over my facebook today. The picture of the girls is being shared repeatedly with people calling them all sorts of names.

What they did is totally out of order, however the facebook judge and jury are out to get them which is totally wrong too and probably illegal. If they have posts admitting it, then the Police should deal with it.

Dawndonna's dd here. Jenji, I'm disabled, people like you frighten me more than these two kids. And yes, as a 19 year old disabled woman I'm calling them kids. 16 is not adult, neither is 18. Not really. But what frightens me more than these two silly, silly kids (and yes I hope they get punished via the correct systems) is your attitude. You don't like leftie liberals. That means in all likelihood you have put me, and my sister and my brother with tourettes (bet you complain about him twitching in cinemas) through hell every year. Every year because people like you don't like lefties and think the benefits system is too easy we have to go cap in hand to ATOS or the like and prove we're still disabled. We have to discuss our incontinence with a complete stranger, our twitches, our pain, how many drugs we need to take to control our pain, our bladders or even (in my case) to stay awake. Because those benefit scrounging scum need to be kept an eye on. And then you say, oh I didn't mean people like you, but we claim benefits too, and here you are sticking up for disabled people because a couple of kids were stupid. Only you're not, not really. You're outraged because they did what they did and it was seemingly targeted (disability hate crime has increased significantly since the coalition/Tory governments), but you're outraged at their parents for apparently not disciplining them enough. You're outraged at the justice system for apparently not doing enough, not being severe enough. In none of this can you see either hope or pity. Pity for the girls who may not have known fully comprehended the consequences of their actions, pity that their parents may not have had the opportunities to enable them to parent properly. Hope for the rehabilitation of these girls via the justice system. A good beating should have sorted them sooner. These are the reasons you frighten me. I've managed, along with my three siblings (oldest 31) to get through life without being beaten my parents, I've managed to fully understand the consequences of my actions and I've managed not to break the law. I am asking you to stop with the knee-jerk and perhaps think things through a little.
Dawndonna's dd

Bravo, Dawndonna's DD, bloody bravo.

Great post dawndonna'sdd

Good Lord, all the people who say MN has gone downhill need only read this thread.

Women calling other women 'cunt holes' and wishing physical violence on them.

(Shakes head)

I'd like to know what on earth would make them think this was a joke? This wouldn't of even entered my head as a teen, or anyone I know for that matter, I just can't understand why they would think this a funny thing to do.
That poor little girl...

Yes bravo bravo

Except I didn't do anything cus I'm not the prime minister am I

Typical lefty

Sooty, have you lost the plot? How unkind.
I'm sure most disabled people would prefer to be able to use the toilet when they need to without the embarrassment of having to find someone to open it for them. There is no epidemic of people misbehaving during the day in disabled toilets, this is a very shocking incident. Your reaction is very strange.
Most 4 year olds can't hold on and wait to use the toilet so I'm sure her poor mother thought she would be better off going to the disabled loos. What parent could have predicted such a horrible act? That poor, poor child.

There was a similar case up here just before Christmas - specifically targeting young children. The seat a handle of a shopping trolley were covered in superglue and a baby had to have her hands peeled away from the handle.

and no why the hell would I have pity for the two little brats??? Jesus Christ the world has gone mad.
I genuinely can't argue with people like you, i would lose my mind lol

If you had one to lose, I mean you did say upthread you didn't mean to found dimwited but there's no escaping the fact that with every post you do, more and more. Frankly I find it terrifying that someone like you has the vote and can procreate at will.

Found=sound

Well said, dawndonna's dd!

Jenj, would you like to see them in the stocks? How about bringing back the scold's bridle? We could revert to mediaeval punishments, couldn't we?

Omg this is horrendous.

Snooty I'm shocked that you would even think about whether or not she was disabled is worrying.

The fact that it was a baby change and they covered it in glue aswell just shows that they were out to get anyone they could (including babies)!

They are deeply disturbed human beings and need locking up, who knows what they are going to do next for a laugh.

Obviously there are people who don't bother to read the thread properly. I was talking about whether the opportunity to commit this offence could have been restricted and I've already retracted what I said initially.

And I agree that it's now got to the stage where I'm finding the OP positively disturbing.

Well said dd's dd.

Snooty you said it and backtracked.

Just own it.