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To think these two girls should get a slap..

298 replies

Jenj1983 · 04/01/2016 21:44

for putting super glue onto the seat of a DISABLED toilet??!

Read the story earlier, apparently the two teens are aged 16-18, and some poor 4yo girl went in after them and had the skin ripped from the back of her legs!
No doubt these two little twats will get a lecture and a wrist slap.

OP posts:
TheSecondViola · 05/01/2016 20:21

Doesn't matter how angry you'd be. We don't let family members loose on suspects, so its immaterial.
And we don't let wankers who advocate punching children & teens decide on justice and law.
Thank fuck.

Jenj1983 · 05/01/2016 20:25

Trust me, I'd get hold of them if it was son they hurt.

OP posts:
Jenj1983 · 05/01/2016 20:26

Was my son

OP posts:
TheSecondViola · 05/01/2016 20:28

And then you'd be arrested and go to prison. And presumably you'd be happy for their parents to kick the shit out of you. Fairs fair.

Madbengalmum · 05/01/2016 20:30

Shame them, surely mcd's will have their pictures on cctv?

PurpleDaisies · 05/01/2016 20:33

Apparently there are pictures all over Facebook already mad and the perpetrators have been getting abuse. I just hope the guilty parties have been correctly identified and not some innocent randoms.

CerseiHeartsJaime4ever · 05/01/2016 20:44

I always wipe the seat before I sit down because of sprayers and seat pissers. I sometimes give it a wipe with the soap if there is any. This awful story has just made me even more OCD about public toilets. The poor little thing Sad

Have the arseholes been found and arrested yet?!

Birdsgottafly · 05/01/2016 20:48

They're being charged with assault, whether the CPS takes it up, is a different matter.

They aren't being named, which could mean that they are both under 18, or there are younger siblings in the house that they live in and they are being protected.

I've known a few incidents were "outraged" vigilantes have attacked homes, with no thought for the young children who live there.

They're just thugs looking for an excuse to commit violence.

wickedwaterwitch · 05/01/2016 21:04

Shock at this thread, it's really nasty IMO.

And also at the Facebook vigilantes

rosieposey · 05/01/2016 21:22

I saw them on my fb feed this morning, i used to live where they come from and a couple of people i know are 'friends' with one of them.

It was a terrible thing they did ( if indeed it was proven to be them ) but the level of vitriol and vigilate wording on fb about theim has made me feel ill.

indeed :-(

SoupDragon · 05/01/2016 21:34

Trust me, I'd get hold of them if it was son they hurt.

I feel sorry for your son, growing up with a mother who thinks violence is the answer.

Sallystyle · 05/01/2016 22:40

They did a horrid thing, earlier I said they were disgusting but then I thought it through and came to the same conclusion as wannabe

My teen still does really stupid shit, without thinking it through. Never has he done anything that could harm another person (to my knowledge at least) but he certainly has done some stupid shit without thinking it through.

Plastering them on FB is not the answer. These girls could have been told by the police , they could have actually felt guilty enough when they realised what they did actually harmed someone but now they have to deal with hate messages and being known as the girls who put superglue on a disabled toilet seat, and be accused of committing a hate crime.

They might be arseholes who will grow into bigger arseholes. Alternatively, they might grow up into decent adults who are productive members of society who fucked up and didn't think through their actions, but now their stupid actions may define them for a very long time to come because people are keyboard warriors and can't let the law deal with them alone.

ilovesooty · 05/01/2016 22:54

Of course what the girls have done is horrible but the Facebook warriors have probably ensured that they won't actually be taken to court.

I'm rather disturbed that people advocating vigilante violence are actually allowed to sit on juries.

Jux · 05/01/2016 22:54

Has the mother called for this sort of vigilante action, or violence to be meted out to them? From what I saw, the mother was actually fairly mature and considered in her responses. None of the hysteria prevalent here, and it was her dd who was hurt.

differentnameforthis · 06/01/2016 08:21

Actually scary to think people like them are allowed a vote and are allowed to reproduce. Fucking scary. NO, what's fucking scary is those using violence to advocate using violence.

Do you not understand how fucking moronic that is??

Seriously? So you want society to sort them out thus creating even more criminals, even more violence, even more prisoners in already crowded prisons?

Let me guess, your (sic) one of those parents that uses naughty step and time out then wonders why your kid doesn't do what they are told.
I mean obviously you won't admit that but people like you are part of the problem
Admit what? The biggest problem I have with my youngest is that she hates sleep! I'll try to batter that out of her tonight..perhaps that is where I am going wrong....

You know what....I don't use physical punishment for my girls. Use time out & have used the naughty step. Why? Because I don't need to be physical with them. We have built a family that works on respect & I have put in a lot of bloody hard work raising what I think are amazing kids. The 7yr regularly gives me her no longer wanted toys to take to work (work in a food a bank) and the 12yr old is one of the kindest people I know, at Christmas they both asked to go shopping to get food & presnet for disadvantaged families. You do not need to hit your kids in order to create decent human beings who care for others. If you have kids, I really do feel for them. And I have NEVER said that on here...ever!!!

if someone did that to your child and ripped the skin off your legs you'd be angry. And you can't say how you'd react until you felt an anger like it Oh I be angry...but I wouldn't want to hurt them...what use am I to my child if I am locked up because of retaliation. If you cause pain to those who have hurt you/your family, you give them the victim badge, and you lose yours.

Trust me, I'd get hold of them if it was son they hurt. What good are you to your son, locked up on a assault charge?

Dipankrispaneven · 06/01/2016 08:53

Some of the hysteria on this page seems to be predicated on the belief that there was superglue on the baby-changing mat. Is there any evidence that that was the case?

And, OP, frankly your fascination with violence is worrying.

TheSecondViola · 06/01/2016 09:20

Has the mother called for this sort of vigilante action, or violence to be meted out to them?

I very much doubt it. For us normal, sane parents, the response is not: "some children hurt my child, lets all go hurt those children!!"
because we have both brain power AND a moral compass. Rather than the hindbrain monosyllabic response of the vigilants types of "duuuh, must punch something, me mad".

AnneTwacky · 06/01/2016 09:45

Physical violence isn't the answer but we shouldn't be treating the perpetrators like they're about 5 either. One's a full grown woman and one's in her mid teens.
They purposefully set out to cause pain and distress to a vulnerable person for their own amusement. I find their lack of empathy concerning.
I think the posters who are advocating slaps etc, just would like, like I myself do, them to face appropriate consequences for their actions. I'm not saying violence but for them to be punished within the law.
Above all, I hope that young girl recovers not just physically but psychologically and emotionally from this as soon as possible and there's no lasting effects.

TheSecondViola · 06/01/2016 11:30

There is no "but" after "physical violence is not the answer". Thats like "I'm not being rude, but (you are being rude)" or "I'm not racist, but...(insert racist thing here)"

AnneTwacky · 06/01/2016 12:09

If you read my post again, you'll find that I'm not condoning violence whatsoever. I just think that people are upset by what they've done and would like to see justice being done. I don't think anyone here would actually hurt these two. They're just angry on behalf of the poor girl.
Also to compare my post to being racist is unnecessarily emotive, unfounded and fair.

AnneTwacky · 06/01/2016 12:16

Unfair that shoud beBlush

TheSecondViola · 06/01/2016 12:18

You still added the but. And a "I just think" as well in your latest.
Again, there is no but or just about the threat of physical violence.

I think some of the more dimwitted and more vitriolic people here would absolutely use physical violence, unfortunately. So don't excuse their vile rantings.

AnneTwacky · 06/01/2016 14:12

Just to be clear. I do think that anyone who actually did hurt the perpetrators as retribution should be held accountable for their actions too. I'm a believer in justice not revenge.

lizatrixi · 06/01/2016 16:01

I am a youth worker and I agree with DisgraceToTheYChromosome! Except I would be asking questions about what happens in a kid's life that makes them do this - it is important to understand in order to prevent and, yes, punish.

Behooven · 06/01/2016 19:53

"What happened in a kids life to make them do this" Hmm

Claptrap, they were being nasty because they are nasty, some people just are.