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To wonder if you know anyone who has never really worked?

302 replies

doitanyways · 30/12/2015 15:47

If so, how did their life pan out?

In particular, what did they do after retirement age?

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elf0508 · 30/12/2015 20:18

I woulnt class having a mental health issue as being disabled?

scarlets · 30/12/2015 20:19

I feel sorry for people with genuine health issues. It really must be awful to witness everyone else living "normal" working and social lives. I bet that none of them would choose that way of being (not that you suggested that OP).

I know a few people who live off wealthy parents. One 40y old guy has an impressive golf handicap because that's pretty much all he has to focus on. Still, he's not harming anyone or relying on the taxpayer, so who cares. Likewise, women and men who marry well.

The scummy types working the system are now being weeded out which is great, but genuine claimants will suffer too sadly.

FlameProofBoots · 30/12/2015 20:21

I have MH issues and at the moment I would say I'm pretty fucking disabled. I can't work because I have weeks days when i can't get out of bed and without round the clock watchful care from my dh and cpn I'd be dead. I can't even manage my own meds because I have an annoying tendency to take the lot.

Owllady · 30/12/2015 20:25

It's interesting the amount of people who have posted about 'carers' not working Hmm

Bifflepants · 30/12/2015 20:28

Raising children IS work.
Caring for a family member IS work.
Running a household IS work.
Voluntary work IS work.

elf0508 · 30/12/2015 20:29

Still my comment was, the lady claims she cannot work as she looks after her daughter who is in a mental health hospital over 14 hours away. Don't see why that means you can't work.

UsernamesAreAPainInTheBalls · 30/12/2015 20:30

I know a girl who's my age (almost 30) who left school and signed onto the dole after the designated amount of time, then became pregnant and herself and her partner lived with her parents while she got single parents allowance. she split up with that partner after a few years, got pregnant with a new partner about 2 years ago so gets single parents for 2 kids with herself and her partner living in, you've guessed it, her parents house Hmm
She's never worked a day but doesn't see anything wrong with that it's so strange to me. She's my friends little sis by the way that's how I know the details Smile
And she's not the only person I know who's chosen that kinda path in life there's a bit of a trend for it here (Ireland) I think really expensive childcare along with generous social welfare make it an easy option for some

elementofsurprise · 30/12/2015 20:33

elf I woulnt class having a mental health issue as being disabled?

Why not, out of interest? What's your reasoning?

As for the lady looking after her daughter... mental health hospitals/wards aren't like the old asylums. Unless she's in some kind of high security unit (?) she won't be in there permanently.

ElfOnTheBoozeShelf · 30/12/2015 20:33

elf05 feel bloody lucky if you've never had a mental illness to the degree that it isn't disabling. What a ridiculous outlook.

KERALA1 · 30/12/2015 20:35

Only one but has substantial private income (family money) did several degrees / ma then sahm. Always busy so good luck to her.

Owllady · 30/12/2015 20:38

My friends son who has a severe disability is in a residential setting and the amount of stuff she has to sort out for him is mind boggling!

I'm a carer btw. My daughter is severely disabled and has been off school since the beginning of October and still some of my 'friends' think I'm a lady of leisure. It's an appalling attitude to have with someone, who in my case hasn't had a full nights sleep in sixteen years! (I have only not worked for two years though, but even when I worked 25 hours a week it wasn't seen as a proper job, so Hmm)

elf0508 · 30/12/2015 20:38

The daughter has been in England for 3 years, she got sent there after she tried to escape a unit in Scotland. Her mum has never visited her in England so I don't see how she is caring for her, if you get me.

Mental health to me is depression, anexity, bi polar. Two of which I have myself, I wouldn't class myself as being disabled.

Tamponlady · 30/12/2015 20:40

Oh there is a guy on the secrect life of gps on channel 5 who has never worked he smokes a lot of weed rufues any offer of drug councilling the GP offers not surprised he's simply there so the dwp will get off his back for him to find a job

He's 30 and never worked

Owllady · 30/12/2015 20:40

And sahm are looking after their children. If they weren't they'd be paying someone else to do it surely?
It's not paid employment when it's your own family, doesn't mean you aren't doing anything

I've also noticed the vast majority of posts on here are about women!

Pleasemrstweedie · 30/12/2015 20:52

My SIL has never worked. She stayed home and 'looked after Mum', although I rather suspect it was the other way round. When she was nearly 40, she married a widower who had taken early retirement and the his parents died, so they live off his pension and his inheritance.

MIL has never changed her Will, so SIL will get the house when MIL dies, to the annoyance of her two hard working DBs.

elementofsurprise · 30/12/2015 20:57

That sounds really odd elf - to claim carer's allowance she should be caring for her daughter for 30 (35?) hours a week! Not saying you're making it up - but there's clearly something we don't know going on (I can't imagine she'd get away with lying either, if the dughter is actually in state care).

Do your MH issues not disable you then? In what way are they problematic/issues/illnesses if they don't have an adverse effect? Genuinely confused. I only sought MH help cos I couldn't hold down a job!

Maryz · 30/12/2015 21:24

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SolidGoldBrass · 30/12/2015 21:32

Well, the Windsor parasites are another good example of people who don't work. Your taxes are currently supporting four generations of these useless, inbred fuckwits to do nothing, despite the fact that the family has more than enough of an independent income to support another four generations...

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 30/12/2015 21:37

Tampon can I ask why your set of rules are better than your friends please. Now what I mean by that is. When you were a foster carer and if someone asked you what you do for a living you would have undoubtedly said. I'm a foster carer so why is it all of a sudden a job the minute you're caring for someone else's child. It's always baffled me that.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 30/12/2015 21:39

Good post SGB.

planter · 30/12/2015 21:59

SGB the OP is at the end of her tether with an autistic brother and you think that is appropriate? I'm gobsmacked Hmm

Maryz · 30/12/2015 22:04

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doitanyways · 30/12/2015 22:07

The post from SGB made me laugh guiltily as one of his rants is the royal family - that, the EU being the cause of all traffic jams and president Obama!

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lighteningirl · 30/12/2015 22:19

We used to have a Post Office there were a good mix of never worked /working the system/occasional workers and several coming in in work clothes yet cashing giros. I guess they will always be ok as in the main they have council houses.

Maryz · 30/12/2015 22:29

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