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To wonder if you know anyone who has never really worked?

302 replies

doitanyways · 30/12/2015 15:47

If so, how did their life pan out?

In particular, what did they do after retirement age?

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doitanyways · 30/12/2015 18:58

Thanks, Maryz, will take a look now :)

DB just doesn't seem to notice when clothes are filthy, and since he buys them so huge anyway the end look isn't a good one.

Celebrated (although with a very sad tinge which I was aware of and he seemingly wasn't) his birthday on Monday in kappa tracksuit bottoms and a baggy white shirt, he looked like he was halfway through getting changed for PE at school!

He did cut his hair though...

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ImtheChristmasCarcass · 30/12/2015 19:05

Oh, just to let you know how serious this all was, before DH and I left on our trip, I actually contacted a funeral home and made pre-need arrangements for my brother. I was that sure he was so close to drinking himself to death that I didn't want to leave things to chance. This included talking to my eldest son about being the one to deal with everything until I could get home.

I know your brother's situation is different since you feel he has an undiagnosed mental illness and my brother was 'just' an alcoholic with emotional problems. But sometimes we just have to stand back and let bad things happen to them in order to save them.

SuckingEggs · 30/12/2015 19:12

I fucking hate people who choose to live off others' hard-earned taxes out of laziness. Grrrr.

SuckingEggs · 30/12/2015 19:14

That wasn't aimed at anyone on this thread btw. Just fed up scrimping and never being entitled to anything (self employed). Oh, and limiting the size of my family...

fidel1ne · 30/12/2015 19:14

Tactful Sucking Hmm

FlatOnTheHill · 30/12/2015 19:14

Solesource
The OP never said or implied she thought it made them inferior to anyone else.
Why say that? Never assume what people are thinking. It can cause trouble.

SoleSource · 30/12/2015 19:17

It's a fact in my mind I didn't imply she did imply it.

FlatOnTheHill · 30/12/2015 19:18

I think the OP meant people who can afford not to work.
Not ill or disabled or those claiming benefits due to being bone idle.

FlatOnTheHill · 30/12/2015 19:21

Just read up posts. So its a male person and you are worried about him, why didnt you say this at the beginning.

SoleSource · 30/12/2015 19:21

That's why I said what I did. If people can afford not to be in paid employment that is ok. If they themselves don't feel ok about it then that is different but I don't judge them. I'm not saying OP does either.

Flamingoblue1 · 30/12/2015 19:23

Friend of a friend. She got pregnant at 17 and has had children so she doesn't have to work. She's still young but appears to have no interest! I pity her sometimes as her kids don't have a working role model and she's missed out on the things a career brings ie money, independence making mates x

SuckingEggs · 30/12/2015 19:27

fidel, can you read?

Confused
fidel1ne · 30/12/2015 19:32

It was a X post Sucking. If you could read numbers you'd have looked at the post times and figured that out for your charming self.

Maryz · 30/12/2015 19:37

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PlaymobilPirate · 30/12/2015 19:41

Dozens. I worked on a job seekers course many years ago and lots of my clients had never worked (18 - 64 years old)

Part of the problem seems to be almost hereditary - parents don't work and claim benefits, including housing benefit. Once the children reach working age they'd have to pay the full rent for the family if they got a job as the family would lose HB. Vicious circle unfortunately.

SuckingEggs · 30/12/2015 19:41

fidel, I stand by what I said in my first post.

But thanks for your handy explanation. Night night.

Maryz · 30/12/2015 19:41

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nortonhouse · 30/12/2015 19:46

I have a friend who is heir (with his siblings) to a massive fortune. He has worked sporadically - e.g. spent a year or two working for the family business when he was very young; later, did some freelance writing (through family contacts) and once took on a four-month part-time teaching assignment at his children's school - but he has never held down a steady job. His financial future is secure, but I would say that he is aimless and restless and definitely lacks a sense of purpose and meaning in his life.

FlowersAndShit · 30/12/2015 19:47

I've never worked Sad I'm 25. I have long term MH issues and mild autism. I'm hoping to get a job- even part time to start with, this year. I get very overwhelmed and overstimulated in public so it will be very difficult for me.

ollieplimsoles · 30/12/2015 19:50

My neighbours daughter has never worked other than on her back she has three children and cant even be bothered to look after them, her mum always has them...

doitanyways · 30/12/2015 19:52

That's where we're at with my brother, Maryz

Counselling is a great suggestion, and I did have it after losing my dad, but where my brothers concerned it's always hard as so many people, unless they've actually lived with autism, just don't understand.

I've learned to detach, and becoming a mini autism expert has helped now that I know why he needs to have ten conversations recounting the exact same thing, and why his clothes are so massive! It's also helped in putting a lot of things from my own childhood into a context that now make sense to me.

But my own life is ridiculously full and I found having to go to weekly counselling was a bit stressful, as well as the cost of course.

Anger is something my brother defaults to and really it isn't anger but frustration, upset and anxiety but it all translates itself through anger and if you didn't know him, you'd probably find him really scary as he starts shouting and ranting and pacing manically, sometimes talking to himself ... (My mother used to do the same.) the difficulty is since he can't very well wear a T shirt with 'i am actually heartbroken with no self esteem and heartwrenchingly lonely but can't express it' people recoil from him, understandably. (He also gets very 'shouty' when nervous.)

I never used to feel resentful but increasingly I feel it.

One of the really (and probably the most significant) insights made in counselling was that my identify had been carved by being his polar opposite as a child: where he was sullen and withdrawn I was happy and outgoing, where he was moody and morose, I was polite and keen.

As teenagers it was a bit different as he fell in with drug taking festival going cool kids and this was largely his Time. He harks back endlessly to it but couldn't move on. His friends from that era have been balding businessmen wearing suits with wives and kids for over a decade now and he just hadn't noticed Sad

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Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 30/12/2015 19:53

Ollie. How do you know so much about your neighbour's daughter. Perhaps I walk around with my eyes shut but I just about know my neighbours names . Never if they or if they've ever worked . I couldn't give a shit, got enough worries of my own

Tamponlady · 30/12/2015 19:58

Yes
My brother in law he is 28 and has never worked never he has a fine arts degree but there's not exactly a rush on for fine artists

My friend since I was school age has two kids has never worked her children are 7 and 14 she is single mum

The lady who lived next door to me in the council home we lived in before me moved here had 4 sons ranging from 19 to 30s they never worked the whole time we lived there 8 years

My ex has never had a job unless you count working in the prison laundry and he is 40

And when I was a foster carer virtually none of the parents who's children I looked after worked and most had never had a job and I don't think prostution counts really

Tamponlady · 30/12/2015 20:03

Totally agree with others there seems to be 3 types who don't work

People who have issues MH disability that sort of thing

Those with very well of parents like my brother in law who's family are running a sort of private welfare system so can't be arsed to work or do useless degrees that you can never actually gain employment from

Or the feckless who claim not to be dispite the hord of kids and say otherwise

Pipestheghost · 30/12/2015 20:08

One of my cousins has ASD and OCD and can't work due to anxiety being around other people. He gets PIP and another benefit, I know his future worries my aunt very much Sad

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