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AIBU?

To wonder if you know anyone who has never really worked?

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doitanyways · 30/12/2015 15:47

If so, how did their life pan out?

In particular, what did they do after retirement age?

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BishopBrennansArse · 31/12/2015 14:45

Oh really sunbeam?
I have 3 kids with multiple complex needs which weren't apparent until I'd had all of them. Nothing that could be tested for.

Both me & DH have tried to work at various points. Between issues with getting them to medical appointments and/or medical or social care appointments it just can't be done.

So I suggest you make like a suppository with your thoughts. Come and try it and we what you think then.

BishopBrennansArse · 31/12/2015 14:49

Oh, and I always worked up until the kids' needs prevented me. I have been directly discriminated against for my own disability (think pay cuts and refusal to make reasonable adjustment) in employment and despite so called good laws to prevent this nothing actually happened when it was reported.

I'm delighted your friends haven't encountered the common barriers to employment that disabled people routinely face and hope they never do. Just think about that. They're the minority.

Owllady · 31/12/2015 14:51

Carers allowance is a pitiful amount for someone to resent someone claiming it (and you can only claim it if the person you are caring for get middle of higher rate care - and in bishopbrennans case she can only claim in once). Goodness me, get your knickers in a twist about something worth getting them in a twist about.

BishopBrennansArse · 31/12/2015 14:53

£62 a week for caring for 3 kids - that's nights too as they don't sleep.

Still sound cushy?

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 31/12/2015 15:11

I take my hat off to you Bishop being a FT mum must be while yes the most rewarding job in the world but also the hardest job in the world and its for some reason ridiculously under valued unless you're looking after some one else's child/ren. And your job really seems 24 hours at least I get a tea break.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 31/12/2015 15:13

Sunbeam am I reading correctly you honest begruge someone the pitiful sum of £62.00 pw. What a sad world we live in.

ChopsticksandChilliCrab · 31/12/2015 15:42

OP we are watching Love Actually and seeing Sarah and her brother has made me think of you and your situation. My heart goes out to you.

Taytocrisps · 31/12/2015 15:57

I don't know anyone who never worked.

My uncle has never worked as long as I've known him. However, I believe he worked at a few jobs briefly when he was younger but he never stuck at anything. He's had issues over the years with alcoholism and depression. He never moved out of the family home. In later years he married and his wife moved into the family home with him and his mother. His wife works. He continued to live in the family home after his mother passed away. I think he's retired now (or close to retirement) so I assume he gets (or will get) the state pension. I don't know if his wife still works but I presume her income or pension will be taken into account.

My aunts all gave up work when they married (they were expected to start work in their teens, nobody went to college) but some of them went back to work when their kids were older or helped out with minding their grandchildren. I assume they live off their husbands' pensions now. Those who bought their own houses would have their mortgages paid off by now. Those who rent from the council pay a reduced rent based on their income.

Samcro · 31/12/2015 16:01

wow yep cos carers allowance is so much. where do these people come up with this shite that people can give up work and exist on carers???
62 quid a week for 24/7 care....

MoreCrackThanHarlem · 31/12/2015 16:04

At the school I work in lots of the children don't know anybody who has a job, either within their family or community. The only employed people they know are those who are in their lives professionally, GPs, teachers etc.

As a school we spend a lot of time in PSHE looking at this. In the last week of term a pilot came in full uniform to give a talk, brought all the children badges and postcards. They were amazed that he existed outside of film/tv.

SoleSource · 31/12/2015 16:06

Having a temporary bad leg is nit the sane as being permanently blind, Autistic, having no speech, unable to look after themselves- feeding, washing, walking, use the toilet.

Alfieisnoisy · 31/12/2015 16:07

Oh yeah....Carers Allowance is sch a desirable thing to have isn't it?

What a load of shit.

I earned FAR more in work than I get out of work. The idea that I'd give up and £40k salary for benefits is laughable.

Anyone who thinks its a breeze to claim Carers Allowance has never had to claim it. For a start the person you are caring for has to meet the criteria for at leasT middle rate care DLA ...I know this has moved to PIP now.

You can't just claim for no good reason.

And yes I know plenty of people with all kinds of disabilities who work. I know others who don't because they cant't.

Whatsinaname2011 · 31/12/2015 16:07

Try netmums...

Sunbeam1112 · 31/12/2015 16:07

Bishop reread what i said i said not everyobe who has disabilties dont work.Depending on the disability have successful working lives. Ive heard alot of people claim carers allowances and not actually care for the person involved. Of course theres genuine people out there. But i do think otherw can abuse the system. Please drop the nasty attitude no need for it.

Samcro · 31/12/2015 16:09

dfod. unless you are their doctor you have no fucking clue

RenataFlitworth · 31/12/2015 16:10

Yes, my cousin. She has never had a job. However, she has 6 children and has been a single parent at various stages since she had the first DC at 18. So no paid employment but she's not been completely idle! I'm not sure what will happen regarding the current benefits and council property when all my second cousins have left home, although her partner sustained a very serious head injury at work due to his employer's negligence and now cannot work, so she is his carer, so I would expect her to retain her entitlement to a council property and assistance with income. I honestly have no idea how she would find the time for paid employment.

Sunbeam1112 · 31/12/2015 16:11

Solesauce it was bone cancer. Its not temporary. He almost lost a leg. He has a metal implant which became infected. It will never get better. Therefore it is a permant disability that affects day to day life.

BishopBrennansArse · 31/12/2015 16:13

There is every need, Sunbeam.
When you experience the very special brand of shit that always, always gets suffixed by "ooh I don't mean yoooooou" on a regular basis you get narked and challenge it. I saw the 'both parents shouldn't be carers' comment clearly thanks, my disabilities don't include visual impairment.

You're quite right in one way though - some disabled people can work. It's a shame many more are barred from doing so by many employers, and that nothing ever happens when the discrimination is reported.

Alfieisnoisy · 31/12/2015 16:16

Does he require DLA/PIP though? If not then he dsability does not moat upon him in the same way as others.

Having said that there might come a stage in the future where he DOES require care from you which might impact upon your ablity to work. At that point Carers Allowance and PIP could be a great support to you financially.

Sunbeam1112 · 31/12/2015 16:19

Theres never need to be rude to ppl. I was explaining that i knew people who had succesful working lives and if anything work gave them a purpose. Trying to make it something positive. I wasn't stating everyone with disabilities should work thats not necessarily the case. More employers should be more accepting most definately. I was talking about parents who children have no particular needs but choose not to work one when can provide and support the household.

Sunbeam1112 · 31/12/2015 16:21

Hes gets a car on mobility. Hes an ex.

Sunbeam1112 · 31/12/2015 16:24

He gets car on mobility. But not aure if anything was reassesed with the new government coming into power.

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knobblyknee · 31/12/2015 16:26

Sunbeam1112 Actually you made the usual 'people claiming benefits when they dont need to ' comment. Its right there at the top of this page.

I think too many people are quick to get these carers allowances for people.

You can only claim carers allowance if someone needs a carer.
They may need a carer even if they can work.

I need a carer for 13 hours a week but dont qualify for PIP, and no one can claim carers allowance for helping me.

Stop being so judgemental and try 'There but for the grace of god go I'.

Samcro · 31/12/2015 16:48

well same old same old shite on mn. a vague op, loads of crap post about benefit cheats and the cherry on the cake a gf who thinks getting carers is easy.

BeyondCBA · 31/12/2015 16:53

I dont know anyone who has never worked btw. And i live in a 'rough' area. Those who have five kids (by seven different dads) who they started 'popping out' when they were 14, work now they are older

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