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Yodel delivery driver opened my front door..

333 replies

harboromummy · 30/12/2015 13:44

This is the second time in two weeks! Same guy!

I went to go into the hall way to go upstairs and the delivery man literally came up to the door, didn't knock, opened my front door and went to put the parcel on the stairs!! He about pooed himself when he saw me then asked me to sign the thing.

The first time I heard the front door go went to check and he had done it then too!!

😡😡

OP posts:
Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 22:46

I didn't say I was certain that nothing bad would happen to me, that would be a bit of a strange statement to make. People make decisions based on all sorts of things. I don't know why it seems to annoy you so much what people you don't know do in their own homes. I'm not saying that to be argumentative, I honestly don't know why it bothers you.
I also didn't say I had never dealt with anyone that had been broken into or robbed.

BitOutOfPractice · 30/12/2015 22:55

It bothers me because I see it happen all the time to people who have made the same risk assessment as you. But I can assure you I'm not angry.

BitOutOfPractice · 30/12/2015 22:55

Or annoyed.

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 23:00

You don't know where any of us live, what our circumstances are, who's in and out the house or how often doors are left unlocked. I wouldn't dream of telling someone they should unlock their door if they didn't want to as I accept people live differently and have different ideas about things. I understand that you see these things in your work, there's plenty I see in my work where I think people have made incorrect decisions about things but I don't take it home with me and lecture strangers on the Internet to get them to mend their ways.

5madthings · 30/12/2015 23:03

That's not true bitoutofpractise I have said on this thread that we have been.burgled, though it was many years ago now in another house, where incidentally I did generally keep the door locked due to the layout of house/garden and area. I have also been raped, I know shit can happen to people, I am not living in blissful ignorance but I refuse to live by what ifs. I and dh make reasonable risk assessments for our lives and our family.

So yes I will leave the door unlocked during the daytime when wr are in and often the kids are going in and out and the door will be open in the summer when the kids play and the baby sleeps and I or dh am about checking on them. In sight/hearing etc. That's normal for our family in this house. It wouldn't be in other houses we lived in or when I just had very little children. But it is what suits us now and feels fine.

Houses are all different, areas are different, people and their circumstances are different and we all make different choices, that's life but I have not said I am certain nothing bad will happen and I do have experience of bad things happening both to myself and other people, so not living in ignorant bliss, more living in reality and happy with my own risk assessments for myself, my family and our circumstances.

FinestGrundyTurkey · 30/12/2015 23:06

fwiw it isn't possible to sneak into our house - the vestibule door has a sprung catch which makes a horrendous noise, audible all over the house, when released.

BitOutOfPractice · 30/12/2015 23:06

I haven't lectured anyone. You obviously are annoyed - both of you - at having your actions questioned. But you both feel happy with the risk assessments you've made and obviously won't change that. I wouldn't expect you to.

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 23:08

But you have been lecturing. You were even saying to a previous poster 'you realise you would have to pay for X, y & z' because she doesn't have contents insurance. The poster I assume is an adult and quite capable of working that out herself when she chose not to get a policy.

PrettyBrightFireflies · 30/12/2015 23:09

kaytee as I said upthread, what I haven't seen explained is the benefits of leaving doors unlocked that outweigh the risk.
There are very few risks it is possible to completely eliminate - and the ability to prevent someone from walking into your home uninvited is one of the few. Yet, you, the OP and others have asserted that they don't want to eliminate that risk; in the OPs case, she HAS experienced it, and doesn't like it, yet continues to leave her door unlocked. Why?

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 30/12/2015 23:10

Few years ago, I wobbled back, slightly pissed, to my parents' house one night about midnight, and genuinely had this conversation:

Me: Bloody hell, mum, your door wasn't locked!
DM: Oh, well, dear, you wouldn't get burglars at this time.
Me: Errrr.... what time do you get burglars then?
DM: Between about 2 and 3 in the morning.

Lucky they're so punctual, then Hmm

Might not have minded quite so much, but 6yo DD was sleeping about 6 foot from said front door at the time.

KoalaDownUnder · 30/12/2015 23:11

That actually made me laugh, BitOutOfPractice.

Thanks for the blanket judgement, but you couldn't be more wrong.

I live in a different country to you. Not everywhere is the same - shock horror! Wink

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 23:11

More annoyed at your blanket "ignorance is bliss" "you all think nothing bad could ever happen to you" statement tbh.

Dipankrispaneven · 30/12/2015 23:14

Clearly people aren't all able to work out for themselves that their insurance may be invalidated if they leave their doors unlocked, given that people on this thread are questioning that.

I also question your use of the term "lecturing". People posting on MN give advice to others every day, and frequently it's advice which is backed by professional knowledge. Most people recognise that as being helpful. But in your view it apparently becomes lecturing when it's advice you don't want to hear.

chillycurtains · 30/12/2015 23:14

Er, lock your door. Not because it matters about the Yodel man or the burgler but because sadly someone could come in with the intention of hurting your or others in your household. It's horrible and best not to dwell on...but it happens so lock your door.

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 23:15

PrettyBrightFireflies I didn't really see the need to explain why I choose to sometimes not lock my door as I'm sure my reasons are different from some others. Also really why does it matter as I'm not telling anyone to leave their doors unlocked so don't have to prove it's a better option. I'm sure it's not a better option for a lot of people.

KoalaDownUnder · 30/12/2015 23:15

And since some people are asking: the benefit of leaving the front door unlocked is that when you're out the back in the pool and your guests turn up, they can just let themselves in the front door, shouting 'Knock knock, we're heeeeeeeere!' Grin

Dipankrispaneven · 30/12/2015 23:17

Why, Koala, don't you have any burglaries or thefts ever where you live? And can you guarantee that you never will?

Dipankrispaneven · 30/12/2015 23:18

And do your guests turn up calling out for you at all hours of the day and night?

BitOutOfPractice · 30/12/2015 23:21

I think you see it as a lecture because I am challenging your established behaviour. But I was just giving my opinion. Like you were.

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 23:22

God can't people accept that everyone lives differently and makes different choices based on a large amount of different factors. This thread shows that lots of people lock their doors and lots of people don't always have them locked why does it matter? Confused

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 23:24

BitOutOfPractice I haven't given my opinion on what other people are doing though? I've not told anyone I think they should or shouldn't lock their doors or that they should or shouldn't have contents insurance etc.

sije · 30/12/2015 23:24

There was a thread some time ago where a lady was caught in an extremely compromising position with her DH by her DIL who had come to pick her baby up. Huge family row because she said they weren't looking after the baby properly.

Yet another reason to lock your doors.

PrettyBrightFireflies · 30/12/2015 23:25

kaytee you're taking this very personally. The OP posted that she was angry about the Yodel delivery driver walking into her home TWICE.
She has the power to prevent it. Lock her door. Simple.

Yet many posters on the thread have argued that locking a front door isn't necessary because THEY haven't had delivery men or burglars walk in.

But the OP has. And to prevent it, she could lock her door. As she is choosing not to, I can only assume that the benefits of not doing so are worth the anger and upset it has caused her.

Similarly, you are taking a risk by not securing your home when you are in it. I am interested to know what the benefits are for you, and others who have posted, of taking that risk. My life has never, as far as I am aware, been inconvenienced by locking my door - what am I missing out on? What is different about your lives that means you are willing to take that risk?

FinestGrundyTurkey · 30/12/2015 23:30

fwiw, even those who lock their doors could be fairly easily broken into, day or night, by somebody who really wants to

bickering about whether anybody should or shouldn't lock their doors at any time is completely unhelpful to all, actually

duh

peckforton · 30/12/2015 23:32

We have a porch and lock the inside door and ask for all parcels to be left in the porch. We have crappy coats and wellies in there as well as dog leads, maybe he thought your house was the same as others