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Yodel delivery driver opened my front door..

333 replies

harboromummy · 30/12/2015 13:44

This is the second time in two weeks! Same guy!

I went to go into the hall way to go upstairs and the delivery man literally came up to the door, didn't knock, opened my front door and went to put the parcel on the stairs!! He about pooed himself when he saw me then asked me to sign the thing.

The first time I heard the front door go went to check and he had done it then too!!

😡😡

OP posts:
OurBlanche · 30/12/2015 18:28

Ooh It's all gone a bit personal.

BitOutofPractice I was paraphrasing the whole thread. Meant nobody specifically. Was just puzzled at the way the thread had gone, wondering why?

I shall go lock my door and take my chastisement like a good girl!

honeyroar · 30/12/2015 18:29

Yes I realise what we'd have to pay for thanks, obviously we thought about it before deciding!

Bohemond · 30/12/2015 18:30

Our front door is always locked but that is because we rarely use it Grin.

Back door always unlocked when I am here and I would be very happy for one of my regular delivery people to leave something on the mat.

I have a running joke with one of them about using 'the tradesman's entrance' but that's how it goes around here....

5madthings · 30/12/2015 18:31

We are more likely ie the kids to be in the front garden than the back, another reason why in the summer the door is often open. If we were all in the back garden, unlikely, we would shut the second internal door so only porch was accessible. It's more likely in the summer tgat both front and back door is open tbh and kids are running through from one garden to the other. Though generally despite climbing frame and trampoline out back they are more likely to plat out the front as front garden is bigger.

I don't leave bags (don't use a handbag) or car keys in front porch, when we lock up ie once dark, we do then leave a key easily accessible to us. So to get out we open internal door which is one that locks automatically but can be opened without a key from theinside, then the next door is one that needs a key to lock it.

I am not doing this from a la la it won't happen to me, we have been burgled, I have been raped but I won't live my life based on what if esp when it would for example affect my kids ie in the summer and they all play out front I don't want them locked out there. They can come in and out and I want to be able to leave sleeping baby in pram by front door, I can then do stuff in kitchen and keep an eye on baby or I can be sitting in living room and have a cup of tea or whatever and still keep an eye on baby.

There are times when I will lock the door if in on my own but it tends to be the second door leaving porch accessible.

goodnightdarthvader1 · 30/12/2015 18:32

I'm a bit puzzled myself that the thread has gone:

  • My delivery man walked in without knocking
  • Your front door was unlocked, therefore you have to put up with whoever walks in
  • What about burglars?
  • Oh, god, YES, BURGLARS!
  • Your insurance is void, because burglars
BitOutOfPractice · 30/12/2015 18:33

OurBlanche I think it's gone this way because I (amongst others) are a bit aghast at how many people are leaving their houses completely open to burglars (in a way that I assume most of them wouldn't with their car)

peggyundercrackers · 30/12/2015 18:33

You won't have to explain to an insurance company why your door is open - they don't expect them to be locked. A closed door is a reasonable method of stopping someone coming in - most insurance documents will never mention the door needs to be locked. I say this with the advice of an underwriter sitting next to me who deals with home insurance...

BitOutOfPractice · 30/12/2015 18:34

And as for chastisement, post a sarky post and you'll get a snippy answer!

BitOutOfPractice · 30/12/2015 18:35

And I write as a an expert often called in by householders dealing with said underwriters who won't pay out because they believe a door has been left open when in fact the lock has been bumped so where does that leave us?

Dipankrispaneven · 30/12/2015 18:37

I really think you need to check your policy again, 5madthings. It may not spell out that you have to lock your door, but I would be amazed if it does not have exclusions which will include cases where you haven't taken reasonable precautions to protect your property.

littleleftie · 30/12/2015 18:38

Yes madthings DD was raped by someone she vaguely knew. He had followed her off the bus and into the house. She didn't lock the door behind her, so he just walked in.

Dipankrispaneven · 30/12/2015 18:40

I also have dealt with cases where insurance companies categorically refuse to pay out when there is any possibility that burglars got in through an unlocked door. The suggestion that an unlocked closed door would be regarded as "a reasonable method of stopping someone coming in" would, frankly, be laughed at.

And, as I've pointed out, insurance policies don't have to tell people to lock doors. All they have to do is to say that they won't pay out in the event that the policy holder hasn't taken reasonable steps to protect their belongings.

BitOutOfPractice · 30/12/2015 18:42

I am now off to drink inappropriate amounts of wine while the kids are at their dad's. My door, you'll be pleased to know, is closed on the yale lock so you can all rest easy Wink

steff13 · 30/12/2015 18:46

Haven't RTFT, so I apologize, but is it a new home for you? We were surprised when we first bought our house that the UPS man put packages in the garage if the garage door is open. I asked him about it, and the previous owners had asked him to do that, and he didn't realize that we'd moved in. If you're new to the home, perhaps the previous owners asked him to put the packages in the house if the door's open.

Dipankrispaneven · 30/12/2015 18:47

Have a look at this which is in no doubt that failing to lock doors can invalidate insurance - and note that there are over 5000 cases a year of burglary by thieves who have walked in through unlocked doors.

goodnightdarthvader1 · 30/12/2015 18:48

Out of interest, how does this work if you're out and have the builders in? When I was at work the builders constantly left the door unlocked (and on several occasions, wide open).

MuddhaOfSuburbia · 30/12/2015 18:48

I've had this

door unlocked but closed- OH/kids nipping in and out, Saturday morning, everyone downstairs

Yodel man opened front door, walked in WITHOUT KNOCKING and then got all huffy when the dogs leapt up and started growling at him

what the actual FUCK

sije · 30/12/2015 18:49

BOP well I'm on my own tonight, and my door is double locked.

I don't want anyone strolling in unannounced.

goodnightdarthvader1 · 30/12/2015 18:49

I did have something go missing, btw, but since the builders nicked a laptop I think they took the other item too.

PrettyBrightFireflies · 30/12/2015 18:58

honey My friends house flooded last year. Three storeys. Caused by the water from the fire hoses putting out the fire in their neighbours roof.

Just saying.

FinestGrundyTurkey · 30/12/2015 18:58

round here all the couriers/postman will leave things inside the front door if they don't need a signature (this is a small town in Lancashire. Most people only have a deadlock, not a Yale, & leave it unlocked when in)

the other day I forgot to lock the front door when I went out, & came back to a parcel I was waiting for in the hall, which I was pleased about

but I can see it's not the same everywhere...

FinestGrundyTurkey · 30/12/2015 18:59

Mind you we do have a vestibule, with a door, so it's not as if they can look around without going further. I would object to that

Doublebubblebubble · 30/12/2015 19:06

I never lock my door never have not even at night. I have two small dcs and as far as I'm aware, in the 6 yeas we've lived in the property we've not been robbed at all ( of course if we're going out we lock the door) Dh is Canadian and he's never locked a door in his life lol. We live in an enclosed square so it is safe to do so

Op yanbu

DollyMcDolly · 30/12/2015 19:08

This happened to me last week. Don't know if it was Yodel though. Wasn't that bothered. I had enclosed front porch as my safe place so he may have got confused.

landrover · 30/12/2015 19:14

Oh Goodness, I cannot believe that some people still do not lock doors, as in the "it won't happen to me!". The weird thing (double bubble ) is that u lock to protect your stuff when u are out, but don't lock to protect your children and you? Weird, are they less important?