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To hate the disingenuous, lying, underhand Hunting Brigade and there ongoing campaign to bring back fox hunting

309 replies

Boomingmarvellous · 26/12/2015 09:56

I hate fox hunting with horses and hounds. It's cruel and barbaric. That's my only objection. I don't mind shooting foxes if they are predating livestock like chickens and lambs. The rest should be left in peace to maintain their place in rural life.

The Hunting brigade and the Countryside Alliance have lied about everything to support their 'sport'. Not least the mass euthanasia of hounds and horses and loss of countryside jobs if it was banned. 10 years on it is more popular then ever.

They still 'accidentally' kill foxes who stray across their path. Why? Because the trail they lay is still concocted to smell of foxes. They have had 10 years to raise hounds to follow a different scent. Dogs can be trained to pick up the scent of anything so why stick to fox? Of course it's because they knew if a conservative government got in they would change the law back again.

Thank you SNP for scotching that idea.

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Supermanspants · 27/12/2015 17:57

Good. We can get on with it quite happily

Excellent...... so no more whinging about repeal then although sabs and monitors will continue to watch and intervene so not sure THAT will make you and your fellow blood junkies happy. Generally they are very angry they are being watched Grin

Dipank
Take Bufra's comment(s) with a large sack of salt.......... it's called denial Wink

Supermanspants · 27/12/2015 18:00

most hunts tolerate the monitors

GrinGrinGrin Comedy gold and pulled straight out of thin air.
Plenty of video evidence on the internet (Youtube, Hunt Sabs Facebook page, LACS) demonstrating how much hunts tolerate monitors

Supermanspants · 27/12/2015 18:01

This is a good place to

Supermanspants · 27/12/2015 18:04

And not a peep out of the hunt mob when this story broke

Mrsmorton · 27/12/2015 18:36

You know, hunts have little interest in what goes on in other hunts.
The hunt I'm associated with is a farmers hunt which hunts a trail set by a runner (unless he's away when it's set by a rider) and the hunters are farmers, shop workers, dairy workers, teachers, vets, vehicle mechs, business managers. All of the toffs you'd normally expect.

What goes on next door, no interest.

Bufra · 27/12/2015 18:37

We hunt four times a week. Monitors are out once a month roughly. We all tolerate them. Yes sometimes people snap because its irritating having a camera pushed into your horses face when you are doing something perfectly legal. Imagine having a camera literally pushed into your child's face when he was going swimming. There's no difference. Both legal hobbies. If they were killing foxes it would be different but monitors very rarely video this as it doesn't happen. They are deluded.

Bufra · 27/12/2015 18:42

mrsmorton the anti-hunt mob refuse to believe that anyone short of a Marchioness goes hunting.

Bufra · 27/12/2015 18:48

Anyway our hunt has nearly doubled it's membership in the last 3 years so we're fine! Violent sabs are dealt with by the police (twice in the last 2 years) and peaceful ones are tolerated. If we get sick of them we move to private land.

LumelaMme · 27/12/2015 18:49

I don't believe for a second that some of them get pleasure from simply 'riding their horses over hedges' and not from seeing a helpless animal killed.
Well, Kali, that explains why people turn out in their droves for drag hunts.

BTW, I hold no strong opinion either way as regards fox hunting. I just can't understand some of the comments on this thread, which seem to fly completely in the face of the facts.

Supermanspants · 27/12/2015 18:50

mrsmorton the anti-hunt mob refuse to believe that anyone short of a Marchioness goes hunting
Oh that old chestnut. Time to move with the times don't you think
Although, that said, the hunt mob like to believe all antis are tree hugging, unemployed, unwashed layabouts. Always find that amusing when people find time to hunt through the week then brand antis as unemployed layabouts.

Hunt monitors pushing a camera into your/your horse's face???? GrinGrinGrin of course Bufra

Supermanspants · 27/12/2015 18:51

Anyway our hunt has nearly doubled it's membership in the last 3 years so we're fine!
So you keep saying Smile

Bufra · 27/12/2015 18:58

Hunt monitors pushing a camera into your/your horse's face???? gringringrin of course Bufra

Is this news to you? You've obviously not been sabbing recently. Hold on, don't tell me you a) don't hunt or b) don't actually go sabbing - but somehow you are an expert Grin

Supermanspants · 27/12/2015 19:01

If you had read the thread you would have seen that I used to hunt my own horse before working in a hunt/point to point yard.

Supermanspants · 27/12/2015 19:08

Anyway..... will leave you blood junkies to chat about made up stories of menacing monitors shoving cameras into your faces and shining lasers into a pony's eyes Grin Grin
Thank god you and your like are a minority and the hunting act will never be repealed..... Cameron knows it, Tim Bonner knows it and as has been perfectly demonstrated on this thread delusion really is alive and kicking amongst the hunt mob. You may well be proud of the fact you engage in a sport that results in the violent death of an animal but that speaks volumes about the sort of person you are. That is who you are in the world. Delightful. Tally ho!

Mrsmorton · 27/12/2015 19:31

Anyway..... will leave you blood junkies to chat about made up stories of menacing monitors shoving cameras into your faces and shining lasers into a pony's eyes grin grin
Thank god you and your like are a minority and the hunting act will never be repealed..... Cameron knows it, Tim Bonner knows it and as has been perfectly demonstrated on this thread delusion really is alive and kicking amongst the hunt mob. You may well be proud of the fact you engage in a sport that results in the violent death of an animal but that speaks volumes about the sort of person you are. That is who you are in the world. Delightful. Tally ho!

Confused yeah, cool. Never heard anyone say tally ho but if that's what happens in your head, I'm happy to let you say it out loud.

tobysmum77 · 27/12/2015 20:21

Thank god you and your like are a minority and the hunting act will never be repealed.....

The sabs/ monitors are hardly engaging in a popular pastime either. The reason it won't be repealed is quite simply because to most people the issue is pretty low down in their list of priorities.

Dipankrispaneven · 27/12/2015 20:32

Where the law is an ass upholding it is not a priority to me no, sometimes the law is wrong and needs to be changed, it isn't something to follow blindly

Try telling that to a judge, tobysmum, and see how far it gets you. We live in a democracy, that means we are supposed to obey the law even if we disagree with it - or take the consequences.

Dipankrispaneven · 27/12/2015 20:35

MrsMorton, you can find what I said as hard to believe as you like, it doesn't change the facts. And I'm fascinated that you fasten on one small word to try to avoid the truth.

It seems to me the RSPCA are doing just fine with the anti-hunting stance, given that it's still against the law.

Dipankrispaneven · 27/12/2015 20:37

really? I don't know of a single case locally where the hunt has been found at fault.

So what, Bufra? The case I referred to wasn't a prosecution of the hunt, it was a dismally failed attempt by a hunt to get an injunction against hunt monitors.

tobysmum77 · 27/12/2015 20:48

Try telling that to a judge, tobysmum, and see how far it gets you. We live in a democracy, that means we are supposed to obey the law even if we disagree with it - or take the consequences

Where did I say that I was breaking the law anyway???? I said upholding it was not always a priority. That said, I have some sympathy for the suffragettes and homosexuals in history.

Dipankrispaneven · 27/12/2015 21:04

tobysmum, you said you shouldn't follow the law blindly if you disagree with it. I was simply pointing out the consequences of following that philosophy.

DG2016 · 29/12/2015 16:09

I never understood why fishing is allowed and not hunting. Is it just a class issue? More people fish than watch football. Would those against the killing of foxes want fishing stopped too and if not why not?

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Boomingmarvellous · 29/12/2015 17:54

DG2016. Are you not aware the Countryside Alliance was saying (in defence of fox hunting and before the ban) that once fox hunting was banned, the 'lefties' would be campaigning for the abolition of fishing and game shooting?

Well guess what. I've not seen any concerted effort to abolish either since the ban was put in place. It was a lie and scaremongering, which they specialise in.

The simple reason is we all don't feel any great passion for fish and avian creatures. I don't think much of shooting (DH belongs to a shoot) posh what! but the birds are bred for game, they are free range and they are eaten! Fish are either eaten or put back. Either way of dying (hook or gun) is not particularly wholesome but it beats being chased for hours and torn to shreds.

And it's still better than being rounded up in a cattle truck and killed in an abbatoir.

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HoHoHoandaBottleOfRum · 29/12/2015 18:06

I adore foxes but then I have no chickens, etc.

I love them and I don't want them torn apart by dogs. I also dislike the way hunting dogs are kept I have seen them in their barrakcs.

however I think fox hunting

HoHoHoandaBottleOfRum · 29/12/2015 18:17

was a disgraceful side issue that took over politics and debate under tony Blair when so much else was going on, the elderly being abused, iraq and the whole uk was up in arms about it...