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to think Donald Trump probably wouldn't give a shit if the UK DID ban him.

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swallowmehole · 09/12/2015 11:15

Lets face it,
this idiot is so egotistical, so mega-rich and so up his own arse, that he probably couldn't care less what we think about him.
This is why I think talks of banning him is bordering on being ridiculous.
Banning him wouldn't impact on his life one iota.

Anyway, a normal person would feel ashamed to be banned from a country.
He's not normal.
He would probably see it as a badge of honor. Hmm

OP posts:
polentapies · 10/12/2015 12:04

Well, as I said I disagree and rather enjoyed his comments.

SirChenjin · 10/12/2015 12:09

I disagree too Claig - I thought Boris was spot on actually, especially in the context of the comments from Donald.

PigletJohn · 10/12/2015 12:16

claig Thu 10-Dec-15 12:02:39
"There was no need to get personal and try to create publicity for himself"

Not much chance that Trumpy will ever follow such a code.

polentapies · 10/12/2015 12:23

Were there not quite a few foreign leaders who voiced an opinion on Scottish independence, including Obama?

The NY Times ran an article yesterday on the very negative response abroad re. Trump's comments. If the US wishes to be isolationist then perhaps there is no right for outsiders to comment. But as it is not so, surely we can comment on their situation as much as they feel they can on ours and others?

claig · 10/12/2015 12:27

'Were there not quite a few foreign leaders who voiced an opinion on Scottish independence, including Obama?'

Obama tried to keep out of it and say it was a matter for the Scottish people. Lots of politicians wanted him to weigh in to help them out but in general politicians try and keep out of the affairs of other countries which is as it should be.

'surely we can comment on their situation as much as they feel they can on ours and others?'

We can comment but our political representatives have a duty to do so in a diplomatic fashion because it is not about their personal opinions since they represent all of us.

polentapies · 10/12/2015 12:30

As I said, the US does have quite a history of intervention, so perhaps they should heed your advice first

claig · 10/12/2015 12:32

'As I said, the US does have quite a history of intervention, so perhaps they should heed your advice first'

But two rights don't make a wrong and the US is the world's pre-eminent power so can do what it likes. Boris Johnson and our political class are minnows compared to the United States and even Trump, who may possibly be elected US President, so they need to act diplomatically.

polentapies · 10/12/2015 12:36

Nope. Behaving diplomatically with Trump is like arguing with a cat and it would be better if the US citizens could see the effect this guy would have. I do hope this is happening

SirChenjin · 10/12/2015 12:40

I suspect that if Alex Salmond had proffered views on Muslims in Scotland which were along the same lines as Donald Trump then many politicians outside of Scotland would have made similar suggestions to him.

Acting diplomatically is one thing; challenging racist and offensive views is quite another and justified in this case, imo.

claig · 10/12/2015 12:40

'I do hope this is happening'

His polls have gone up since he said it. There is a strong chance he will actually become President which is why it is stupid for grandstanding members of our political class to make the faux pas of insulting him personally rather than sticking to policy.

LumelaMme · 10/12/2015 12:41

Oh, I think he should come here. That way the level of his ignorance about the UK might make it onto US television. Otherwise he can say all he likes and no one across the pond will notice people here jumping up and down and shouting.

SirChenjin · 10/12/2015 12:43

There is not a 'strong chance' he will be President. The majority of Americans are not that stupid.

claig · 10/12/2015 12:47

"Donald Trump will be the next president: Political experts are starting to consider the impossible
...
David Burstein, founder of the political-reform group Run for America, believes we need to start preparing ourselves for the possibility that Trump will indeed win the nomination and go on to become the next president of the United States. Burstein has looked at the polls and the electoral map for Vanity Fair magazine and has concluded that "Trump is just as competitive and perhaps more so as either John McCain, in 2008, or Mitt Romney, in 2012."

The reason for this unexpected competitiveness: Trump has been astonishingly successful at defining himself as a pure, anti-establishment bellower of truths, which is exactly what Republican voters and many independents are looking for."

www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/10/donald_trump_will_be_the_next.html

Get ready for an earthquake that rocks establishments all over the world. Puppets in political classes across the globe will be swallowing their words so fast it will be amazing.

SirChenjin · 10/12/2015 12:52

And other commentators have other views on his chances. I think it will closely fought, but no, it won't happen.

PigletJohn · 10/12/2015 12:55

SirChenjin "There is not a 'strong chance' he will be President. The majority of Americans are not that stupid."

Claig thinks they are.

cardibach · 10/12/2015 12:55

McCain and Romney didn't win...
As an elected representative, surely his job is to speak out for those who elected him? Politics and diplomacy are two different things, albeit linked. Sometimes politicians have to be undiplomatic.

claig · 10/12/2015 12:55

'And other commentators have other views on his chances'

Absolutely, but so far the other commentators have been wrong on Trump every step of the way. They thought he was a joke and would not last. He said last night in an interview with Bill O'Reilly on Fox that "this was not supposed to happen", "that he was a joke and was not taking it seriously" and he said he is "doing something that has never been done in Maerica before". He is the anti-establishment candidate who will take down the establishment. Nothing like this has ever happened before and when Trump wins the earthquake will rock the puppets in establishments across the entire planet. That is why it is a mistake for any Etonian to insult him personally.

polentapies · 10/12/2015 12:56

Yes I have read many articles of that ilk and many whiich challenge that view. However, I don't think he will be President either. But the other candidates do need take him on directly as he is running rings round them at the moment. I believe they will soon enough. Or I hope. I also don't believe the US citizens are that stupid. Or I hope

I watched a clip of him at the Sinn Fein funding event in NY some years back. Shaking Gerry Adam's hand. Hard to marry that up with being hard on terrorism. I reckon there will be quite a few more bones to pick over.

I'm sure we can all agree that it's going to be very interesting indeed

claig · 10/12/2015 13:00

'I'm sure we can all agree that it's going to be very interesting indeed'

This will be the most interesting election ever and it will affect all our lives here in Europe too because Trump is going to end political correctness and rule by the puppets. Trump's ascendancy is the acendancy of the people over the elites. Trump said "nothing like this has ever happened before" and that is an understatement. If he wins, puppets will fall like skittles across the planet and the world will never be the same again.

claig · 10/12/2015 13:07

If Trump wins, there will no more insults by Etonians, they will all be dancing to his tune. That is how big this really is and that is why the US Establishment are doing their utmost to try and stop Trump. The entire gravy train hangs in the balance. Trump intends to "clean house".

Dipankrispaneven · 10/12/2015 13:09

Our political class should not meddle in the affairs of other countries. They feel entitled to do it with third world countries, but they should not meddle with te United States at all. Boris can go on about Blair or any other Labour MP not being fit for office, but he should stay out of an American Presidential election. It is just basic etiquette and diplomacy, things which Boris lacks.

You're making up your very own rules there, claig, out in the real world none of that is true.

SirChenjin · 10/12/2015 13:13

Again, I disagree with everything you're coming out with claig.

claig · 10/12/2015 13:16

Dipankrispaneven, we know they feel entitled to meddle in countries they have no respect for, but when Etonians meddle in the affairs of the United States of America and pontificate on who is "fit to run for office" in the United States and when phony conservatives in this country lecture American conservatives on their most popular candidate, then the Etonians like Icarus before them have reached too high in their arrogance and they have made a big mistake.

Muskey · 10/12/2015 13:19

I really think people should ignore the bigoted dick. If Americans want him as their president then they really only have themselves to blame when things go ping tong.

polentapies · 10/12/2015 13:30

Ha ha ha!

One of Trump's latest tweets as follows

"Thank you to respected columnist Katie Hopkins of Daily Mail.com for her powerful writing on the U.K.'s Muslim problems."

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