...to think surely nobody will vote Donald Trump now?

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Donald Trump thinks there should be a ban on all Muslims entering the U.S.

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Can't remember where I stole this from - but all of his wives have been immigrants, proving that they take the jobs Americans don't want to do.

I was in holiday in California a few months ago - you would be surprised at the number of people we got chatting to who said they will vote for him.

There is no way in hell that California will vote for Trump. No way. Won't happen.

I still can't get over his impression of Serge Kovaleski. He's ducking disgraceful :(

People tend to gravitate towards friends that have similar views.

I remember on webforums that UKIP supporters were genuinely unable to comprehend that UKI hadn't won the election because 'everyone they knew was voting UKIP' and were crying fix.

It hadn't entered their head that this was a function of hanging around with people who shared their views in a single town and that other people -shock horror - might think differently.

God bless America. For sure, all Americans deserve better than Donald Trump. So does the rest of the world.

I hope he get's in, it's going to be bloody hilarious!

OP, if my Facebook feed is anything to go by, I am afraid, yes, some people will vote for him.

On the plus side, the American government is designed to be gridlocked, aka "checks and balances." The president isn't that powerful. If congress fights him, he won't be able to do much, except blather on in front of TV cameras. I cannot really see him winning the presidency, but if he does, it will be very different from running a business where he says "jump" and minions ask "how high?"

'Yes I'm surprised Claig isn't on here offering a paen to Trump. '

I think Trump was wrong to say it. It was a stupid thing to say and was wrong. But I don't think it will affect Trump's popularity. He either wants to lose delibearetly and help Clinton or more likely he is differentiating himself from all of the other politicians (who he calls "puppets") by saying things they would not say, and that will appeal to the millions of voters who dislike all the other politicians. No one believes Trump will do what he says, but the fact that he is different to all of the rest is enough for millions of people.

I think Trump may well become President because people have had enough of the rest of them. What Trump will then do, no one quite knows.

Compos I found the same reaction on here when Labour lost the election, they couldn't believe it.I guess coz MN is largely labour.

I am amazed there is no legal gagging order that can be placed on him, purely because what he is saying is playing directly into ISIS hands. He is a dream for them.

Creating a huge us and them narrative, wanting to treat muslims differently and allowing a victim narrative.

I think Obama has been really cool about all of this - he has been keeping the heat out of the debate making it hard for ISIS to get a hook in.

Trump is their wet dream and he is probably tipping over any Muslims dipping a toe into radicalism, over the edge.

My dd compared his comments about keeping track of Muslims to Hitler's enforcement of labelling people, i.e. Jewish people wearing stars on their clothes. In spite of thishe gatgathering support - very worrying

I know Paula where in actual fact ISIS are the Nazi's and the rest of us are the Jews ie they want to kill all the infidels/not proper muslims.

Trump is muddying waters.

There is no way in hell that California will vote for Trump. No way. Won't happen

I hope not - but we met a lot of people who said they would, they werent necessarily all from California. One of the most vocal supporters was a woman who worked in a little cafe we stopped in on Route 66 somewhere in Arizona. A strong supporter was a guy we met in Laguna Beach was on holiday from Texas I think.

Op loads of Americans are going to vote for him. Be prepared.

Trump is trying to use scapegoats to unite others to support him. The more trouble there is with Isis etc, the better Trump will do because he calls Obama "weak" and the other politicians "clueless" and lots of people will want a tough, straight-talking operator to change things.

What Trump will do, nobody knows. But he could end up stripping away even more civil liberties than the politicians he calls "puppets". No one knows how th really read him, but I doubt that will affect his popularity, so sick are millions of people of the rest of them.

There is one salutary effect. His comments are forcing the other Republican candidates to take a stand against his remarks.

I don't know much about the US system, but wouldn't what he is suggesting be unconstitutional?

'There is one salutary effect. His comments are forcing the other Republican candidates to take a stand against his remarks.'

But they have been doing that from the start of his campaign and nothing has worked, so discredited as Establishment are the rest of them. The more anti-establishment Trump is, the more they all gang up on him, the more popular he gets because people feel they are not being repreented by the Establishment.

Not a single vote has been cast. The Republican Party is not going to nominate someone who is unelectable in the general election. Trump can't carry the Hispanic vote, and he can't carry the independent vote. He can't get elected without those sectors.

And yes, denying people entry into the US, especially American citizens, because of their religion, is unconstitutional.

Trump is clearly a massive twat.

However, twattery does not disqualify anyone from running for political office, even the US Presidency.

I fear he could do well, though hope for the opposite.

That's what I thought Paula, he'll be making them wear badges next, it's very sinister and completely what ISIS would want to happen

'And yes, denying people entry into the US, especially American citizens, because of their religion, is unconstitutional.'

He is not talking about American citizens. Great, on Fox News, kept trying to get him on that last night, but he said it did not include Americans.

I think Trump will beat Hilary in a head-to-head because he will not be politically correct and will say things that no one else dares - be that on Benghazi, email servers etc etc. I think Trump may win back a lot of the Hispanic vote. He can chop and change at will, because he doesn't mean half the things he says. He throws out flyers and then rolls back.

Sorry "Greta, on Fox News", not "Great"

Exactly what Seneca says. The Republican party will not nominate him. If it did, the party would implode and would move from its current position as marginally unelectable (they've one one presidential election since the end of the Cold War - not counting the 2000 election which they didn't win electorally) to permanently unelectable.

I still think there's a possibility that he's trolling the Republicans on behalf of the Clintons, though I suspect it's more likely that he's a deeply stupid man who has been tricked into destroying the Republican chance of winning in 2016 by the wily Bill. This is an interesting piece from earlier in the year www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html

The US already bars people based on Communist party membership. The Green card form asks whether the applicant "is or has ever been a member of or in any way associated (either directly or indirectly) with the Communist Party or any other totalitarian party, or ever advocated (either directly or indirectly) the overthrow of any government by force or violence."

Islam is no different. It is antithetical to Western societies - crucially in the adherence of ALL it's followers to Sharia, that is the primacy of religious law over secular law. This is not to even touch on the tenets regarding Jihad and martyrdom. Adding Islam to a list of banned ideologies would seem to be a rationalisation of Western immigration policy.