...to think surely nobody will vote Donald Trump now?

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Donald Trump thinks there should be a ban on all Muslims entering the U.S.

Beeb news here.

Also reported in the Guardian yesterday that he paid $500 for a place at an IRA fundraiser with special guest Gerry Adams.

Wouldn't happen in the UK! ......oh wait

"showboating with a petition"

you mean showboating in such a way that your name is not publicised and nobody knows you've done it?

Not much of a show.

rickroll thats interesting I look forward to seeing your evidence!

www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/defence/article4183684.ece

flip I have lived here 10 years now and I am only just starting to properly understand American culture. The mentality here is different. First you have to remember the US is the size of Europe. It is just as far from my front door to Seattle as it is to The UK. To go another 2000 miles east you end up beyond Poland.

The other aspect of american culture that Europeans don't always understand is the pioneer mentality. This is a new country. So much is still being discovered. It was built up quickly and with that sudden growth came issues which should rightfully be societies priority. While Europeans see this as isolationist Americans tend to see this as practical.

It's hard to explain what I observe because it took me so long to understand it myself.

Did anyone see/read what Sacha Baron Cohen said about him on a chat show the other day?

It is a clearly a parody of a rich, American racist," Borat said, adding that Trump doesn't even look real. "Cohen have spent all the money on orange paint for face and leave no money for wig."

I was thinking there was no way that was true RickRoll. I was just going to ignore your comment. But you backed it up with a Times article. Damn! I find that really shocking.

Fair point Piglet.

AnthonyBlanche
The electoral roll has changed so that the head of the household only registers themself - everybody else has to register individually
www.electoral-reform.org.uk/voter-registration
Its a massive issue that people are not realising will hit them
because council cuts mean the Local Authorities cannot knock on doors
and people assume they are still on

Thanks Want2. I'm genuinely interested to eat your perspective - we share a language but there seem to be so many differences.

Read, not eat!

Very sad to hear that there are so few Muslims in the British Army.

The army has always had a terrible reputation for racism, and at one time Prince Charles indicated that he did not want to see the colour bar continue in the Guards at Buckingham Palace. So they got one black soldier.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5333874.stm

In public, serving soldiers, and especially senior officers, always keep quiet or deny the problem, but they sometimes speak more openly once they have left. You cannot expect a serviceman who has experienced it to encourage other young people to join up.

Thanks Talkin. Now that you've explained I do remember that we filled in separate forms.

I heard about this petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516 today. Seems that there are plenty of people in this country who agree with Trump, almost as many as want to see him banned from the UK!

My brother has been in the Army for a while now and was shocked by the number of British Muslims he has come across in Afganistan. Far less were in Iraq. He has always had at least 2-3 black men serve under him and many are recent immigrants from the Caribbean islands. He said at the officer level a lot are second generation Nigerian. He is infantry. In other areas such as MP and Signals there are far fewer minorities.

The vast majority of people here don't care what others think of them. It is about what is best for them as in the US, not the world. This is what I mean by the mindset here in the US is so very different in the UK. Rarely does the average voter in the UK only think about what is best for the UK. It is drilled into us to be considerate of others. The vast majority of Americans have not been educated to think that way.

Supermum I've been reading with interest and agreeing with a lot of what you've said on this thread about US politics and DT. but this is just funny. If you seriously believe it to be true, could you explain to an Irish and American citizen just what good the British thought they were nobly offering the world with Margaret Thatcher?

Even sadder so many UK people have gone to join ISIL and Al Nusra.

BBC Newsnight just had a piece about "is Trump unstoppable?"
They had two correspondents from America and one of them explained it right, Trump's appeal is due to "the contempt that people have for the elites". Everytime the elites attack him, the more the people flock to him. He has got all the elites and their puppet politicians petrified, in Europe and the US. The BBC, Oxbridge, the whole lot are petrified of a Trump victory because Trump is going to rewrite all the rules these puppets have been trying to set.

Trump will tear up their global climate change crap, he will end their dreams.

Kirsty asked a politically correct US commentator about Clinton saying that "Trump is no longer funny, he is dangerous", the decent US commentator rightly said that was laughable and that the only people he is dangerous to is the political elite.

The elites of the world and all of their puppets and hangers-on and publicly paid for bureaucrats in their Climate conferences, all their NGOs and charidees and tax-free foundations and all the rest of them have nothing to stop Trump. They have played their last and only card - political correctness - to try and shut him up, but Trump isn't politically correct and nor are the people which is why Trump is going to win and transform Europe as well as America.

Get ready for the biggest climate change in history, Trump will end political correctness and give power back to the people.

why are you obsessed with "elites?"

'It is drilled into us to be considerate of others. The vast majority of Americans have not been educated to think that way.'

Canyouforgiveher, I think there is an element of truth in that statement but I see it as a positive for Americans and as a negative for us, Europeans.

We have been brainwashed by our elites, our politically correct classes. We have had rubbish and lies drilled into us to the extent that we paid their for their homes to be flipped or for their bath plugs to be bought or for their moats to be maintained without even knowing about it because our compliant "all in it together media" was in it with them and never told us about it. In the US, there is the Freedom of Information Act, there is vigorous political debate and the people are independent-minded and freedom-loving and they can't be so easily fooled by the political elites in the Beltway. That is why the people hold "the political elites in contempt" which is why Trump resonates with them, whereas here the BBC and the Oxbridge class of media servants would do their best to marginalise him in the failing way that Clinton desperately has to resort to.

Trump won't take orders from no one, no elite or puppet will bully him and tell him what to do. They can't scare Trump with "political correctness", they can't "educate" Trump about their climate change scam. They can't drill it into him. He is going to bring their whole plan crashing down around their ankles.

Who are these "elites"? Donald Trump is the very definition of "elite" in the US: son of a millionaire so inherited wealth, private schools, and an Ivy League education.

'why are you obsessed with "elites?"

Because they run the world and that is what politics is all about and they set the policies which we live by. They are all in Paris, with their publicly paid servant retinues of thousands, discussing the transfer of billions of taxpayer money from US citizens and EU citizens to the developing world as part of the climate scam.

Trump as the US commentator rightly said is popular because of the "contempt of the public for the political elites". Trump is anti-establishment, he is challenging them which is why they are all against him in the US, in the Republican Party and in Europe.

But don't worry, he will win because the American people are going to beat the elites.

so you think a billionaire business leader from a privileged background is not a member of any elite?

Ah yes Donald Trump, the anti-elite - very funny.

And the idea that Trump will show those ivy league boys a thing or two because he is all down and gritty and graduated from the school of hard knocks

You do know he graduated from U Penn (as will his daughter) which is an ivy league school just like Harvard and Yale and the same as Oxbridge?

All I can cling to is that Donald is playing a very deep game of ensuring that Hilary Clinton will be elected :)

I think I'm voting for Bernie Sanders myself. The Bernie Sanders phenomenon is as interesting as the Donald Trump phenomenon in this primary election cycle (and it is only the primaries - there have been weirder candidates than DT who rose and fell well before the actual election) and it is interesting how people who seem interested in the US political situation are so silent about him on here. He is an outspoken democratic socialist and he is giving Hillary Clinton a serious run for her money.

There are lots of interesting things happening in the US primary race (did I mention it is a primary) not just Donald Trump.

And again I have to smile at the idea of generations of UK voters voting for the global common good while US voters vote for their own interests (suggest you read Whatever Happened To Kansas? which is about exactly why american voters DON"T vote in their own interests) As an Irish woman, I find the idea particularly funny that UK voters have been voting for the global good for generations.

' Donald Trump is the very definition of "elite" in the US'

No, being rich does not make you elite. You can be super rich and still be an outsider, a maverick. To be in the club of the elite, you have to go along with what they want, like cliate change and all the rest of the cons.

Bill Gates is part of the club because he goes along. He doesn't run diddly squat but he goes along. Trump doesn't go along which is why every last one of the elite is ranged against him.

Trump did a brilliant interview on O'Reilly the other night. He said "Bill, six months ago, I was part of the Establishment, part of the elite" but then he opened his mouth and decided to run and now he is excluded from the elite and their club because what he is running on goes contrary to their plan. Trump is for the American people, he wants to make "Americam great again" and that is not part of their plan, as the good US commentator on BBC Newsnight said, they don't care about that, they don't care about the ordinary American folk, they are internationalists all grouped around a climate conference table in Paris, the American people and their tax dollars are the least of their concerns.

Bill O'Reilly gave a startling statistic on Fox last night. He said half of American workers earn less than $30,000 a year. Do you realise how hard Americans work, how few holidays they get, how few benefits they get and after all of that, so many are on less than $30,000 a year?

The political class don't care, they are bought and paid for, but Trump will "make America great again" and that means for its people, not its puppets and elites.

you mean, being a fascist disqualifies you from being elite?

Fair enough.