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AIBU to find this term offensive

296 replies

wakeupandsmellthecoffee · 29/11/2015 20:56

A colleague at work in reference to someone sitting down relaxing in a chair said "he's monging out"she was surprised when I said I was offended by the term and that it was disabilist.
What is your definitions of the term mong.

OP posts:
Wolfiefan · 29/11/2015 20:58

It's unacceptable. It is offensive. Can't believe anyone would think otherwise. Confused

abbieanders · 29/11/2015 20:58

You really want a discussion about the definitions that people might apply to 'mong'? Why?

Salmotrutta · 29/11/2015 20:59

Offensive and horrible.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 29/11/2015 20:59

It's from Mongrel dog isn't it? As in scruffy, lazy and not bred for a purpose.

Sairelou · 29/11/2015 21:01

I never knew it was an offensive term. I use it all the time if I'm having a lazy day Confused

wakeupandsmellthecoffee · 29/11/2015 21:02

She looked at me as if I was wrong but she is half my age so I assumed that when growing up this word was bounded around as a normal term of speech for me .I just wanted clarification that I hadn't imagined ed the word being so very wrong .

OP posts:
NoArmaniNoPunani · 29/11/2015 21:02

It's a derogatory term for a person with Down syndrome. Highly offensive

Helmetbymidnight · 29/11/2015 21:02

It's offensive and no it's not from the dog.

TreeSparrow · 29/11/2015 21:02

I thought the origin was from "Mongoloid" which was a horrible name for someone with Down's Syndrome. Pretty offensive.

BoneyBackJefferson · 29/11/2015 21:02

Milk

Its a slang term for someone with cerebral palsy.

Wolfiefan · 29/11/2015 21:03

Um no milk. It's a reference to Down's. Hmm

JarethTheGoblinKing · 29/11/2015 21:03

I know a lot of people who use this term that have no idea that it's offensive. I accidentally used it on MN once and got slaughtered, genuinely had no idea.

If course it offensive, but in my limited experience, a lot of people aren't aware

RiverTam · 29/11/2015 21:04

I thought it was from Mongolism which was the old term for people with Down's Syndrome. Which of course makes it extremely offensive, akin to using the 'r' word.

But having read people thinking it comes from mongrel then perhaps he wasn't. But probably best avoided.

RiverTam · 29/11/2015 21:04

Post!!!

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 29/11/2015 21:04

Well clearly you haven't imagined it, but it's not beyond comprehension that she was unaware of any offensive connotations.

I wasn't.

RiverTam · 29/11/2015 21:05

X pist

Darvany · 29/11/2015 21:05

It's short for Mongol, not mongrel.

It was used to describe someone who has Down's Syndrome so offensive in that it is both racist and disablist.

Darvany · 29/11/2015 21:05

x-post with everyone.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 29/11/2015 21:06

WOAH!!!

X-posts!!!

I have never heard of Mongoloid or Mongolism.

Shit.

GloriaSmellens · 29/11/2015 21:06

I think many people are unaware of the offensiveness of this term. II didn't realise it was offensive until I saw it on MN and when people use it in real life I don't think they know where it comes from.

But YANBU to find it offensive.

wasonthelist · 29/11/2015 21:08

We used to say mong all the time when I was a kid - if I'm honest, I never knew what it meant.

If I've got it right, it refers to the old way we used to describe Downs Syndrome as Mongolism - after the work of Down, however as long ago as 1965 the UN packed that in after a (valid) objection from a Mongolian delegate.

It's not something I'd ever say now, but I do want to make a plea for myself and others who said it in the past - I know it was offensive and ignorant, but at the time I didn't understand the significance and it really wasn't meant to be offensive because I didn't even know who I'd have been offending. The way things were when I was a kid, I never even met a kid with Down's.

KeepOnMoving1 · 29/11/2015 21:08

I know that because of mn. At the same I know many people don't really know what it means as well.

ComposHatComesBack · 29/11/2015 21:08

It's from Mongrel dog isn't it

No, It is from mongoloid, a dated and highly offensive term for someone with Down's Syndrome. It was based on the idea that people with Down's had facial features that resembled those of south east Asia (corresponding with the Mongol empire) so the term manages to be both extremely offensive to people with Down's and being racially insensitive. Quite the double whammy.

Helmetbymidnight · 29/11/2015 21:09

The young folk say it a lot, specially the spliff smokers, right?

I sound like my grandma.

squidzin · 29/11/2015 21:09

So many people have absolutely no idea that "monging out" is offensive or connected in any way to Down Syndrome. I always took it to mean connected to a mongrel or lazy relaxed dog or something.

It must be a dialectic or generational thing. I only found out later in life that some people associate it with an offensive term.

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