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AIBU to find this term offensive

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wakeupandsmellthecoffee · 29/11/2015 20:56

A colleague at work in reference to someone sitting down relaxing in a chair said "he's monging out"she was surprised when I said I was offended by the term and that it was disabilist.
What is your definitions of the term mong.

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Iggi999 · 29/11/2015 22:40

Orda so if someone called their neighbour a (eg) paki, innocently, that would be fine? The intention is not what makes an act racist, so I don't see why disability hate speech should be any different.

Orda1 · 29/11/2015 22:40

Ffs, you know what I mean, autocorrect

Orda1 · 29/11/2015 22:40

I'm not saying it's fine, I'm saying you can't berate someone for using a term they don't know is offensive. The racial term is well known.

Sallystyle · 29/11/2015 22:42

It's a horrible term.

If someone uses it and doesn't know what it means I wouldn't be offended. It doesn't make the term any less offensive but their intent was not to offend. So yeah, id cut them some slack for it while kindly pointing out the error of their ways.

RealHuman · 29/11/2015 22:42

I don't use it. My brother used to call me a mong when we were kids - he picked it up from junior school. When we grew up and found out what it means (and I'm not sure how it's possible to be alive for several decades and not find out, but I accept some people don't) he didn't use it any more. I don't use cretin or moron either, and try not to use idiot either (though it's so ingrained as a normal everyday word that it slips out sometimes Blush).

Samcro · 29/11/2015 22:43

People know its wrong, yet they defend their rights to use it, im just glad my eldest has a big fist

Owllady · 29/11/2015 22:44

To be fair mongol is well known too. But I agree that if somone has said it without realising the connotations, then fine. As long as when hearing it was offensive they refrained from using it, rather than deciding it meant something else and i was a silly lady

PurpleDaisies · 29/11/2015 22:46

I don't use it. If I hear someone using it I'd tell them what it means and then they can make up their own mind whether it is offensive or not. I would ask them not to use it around me if they decided to continue using the term.

Orda1 · 29/11/2015 22:47

Yes I agree. I don't think it's well known among 20 something's - which is a good thing I suppose!

DixieNormas · 29/11/2015 22:48

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MonstrousPippin · 29/11/2015 22:49

Until MN, I wasn't aware of the word's origins. At school it was used as an affectionate tease, similar to "you wally". I'm almost 100% positive my friends, same as me, didn't realise the origins (also what's the origin of wally? Worried now!)

I'm very careful to steer clear of the term now that I understand its original meaning.

RealHuman · 29/11/2015 22:52

I'm 20-something. The only person I know who talks about "monging out" is around forty. I was shocked when she said it and told her what it means, and she argued that it doesn't mean that and she didn't mean that and kept using it.

Owllady · 29/11/2015 22:52

Is treebrowns the glass saliva poster?

DixieNormas · 29/11/2015 22:53

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OddSocksHighHeels · 29/11/2015 22:53

Grass saliva? I don't know about that. He's banned now though.

DixieNormas · 29/11/2015 22:55

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Maryz · 29/11/2015 22:56

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Owllady · 29/11/2015 22:57

I hope i am not forced to give everyone my age :o

oldsocks, another thread, similar subject 《code》

EduCated · 29/11/2015 22:57

It's offensive whether it was meant to be or not. Read what MrsDV said.

People who continue to use it after being told what it means are pretty cuntish really. I've inadvertently used disablist language in the past. I was mortified when I realised, apologised and made sure not to use it again.

DixieNormas · 29/11/2015 22:59

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SpellBookandCandle · 29/11/2015 23:01

Maryz, I live in the US, the use of the word retard is not acceptable here in most circles. Please don't speak for all the United States.

Owllady · 29/11/2015 23:03

Awww :( :( full moon week never helps
i'm like the walk of the living dead atm if it's consolation :o it must be my age...

Flashbangandgone · 29/11/2015 23:04

If 'monging out' is used by the younger generation to mean relaxing without even any implication of Down's syndrome then I'm not sure what the issue is. I don't see how relaxing and Down's are related.

It may be that the word had its origins ultimately in the term 'mongoloid', but it seems that time and evolution has severed any discernible link. Language is littered with words that have undergone transformational changes over periods.... People should relax and let it be...

Maryz · 29/11/2015 23:06

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