AIBU to find this term offensive

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A colleague at work in reference to someone sitting down relaxing in a chair said "he's monging out"she was surprised when I said I was offended by the term and that it was disabilist.
What is your definitions of the term mong.

Monging out is a term commonly used when one is so stoned they, literally, relax into a chair in euphoric bliss.

Its not meant offensively.

I remember a couple of years ago when Clare Short was criticised for using the term "Mongol baby" to describe Sarah Palin's son Trig who has Downs Syndrome-
metro.co.uk/2012/04/05/clare-short-criticised-for-using-word-mongol-to-describe-sarah-palins-sontrig-who-has-downs-syndrome-377736/

No one I know would say it..

Oh, erm, well done?

I'm surprised people don't know it's offensive, same for Joey
In fact my worst encounter of discrimination was when we were in a very small restaurant having a meal and an older couple came and sat on a table by us. He said to his wife at the top of his voice, 'lucky for you, there's a Joey behind you' and rolled his eyes
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Stupid fucking cunt

We were just out having a meal, minding our own business and it had taken years of progress fir my daughter to be able to do that (she doesn't have ds, she has sld and complex disabilities)

Thank you

It's an age thing/regional isn't it?

It is offensive to me but I know plenty who say it. For me it sits alongside 'spaz' and 'retard'

They make me wince but seem to be in common usage.

Bunbaker "I suspect that most young people just don't know that was what the term was back in the 60s for people with Down's syndrome because they weren't even born then."

oh it's from the 60s? I'm 40 and I didn't know this. I have heard of "monging out" as "slobbing out" but not in any other way.

It was an insult when I was at school, SummerNights and I'm only a few years older than you. If anyone was caught using it as an insult in school they were called out on it and usually got some form of punishment - lines or a lunchtime detention

Calling someone a 'mong' may be offensive to some but I can't ever remember it being used as an insult at school. There are much harder hitting words that my classmates would have used if they meant to insult tbh.

I can remember it being used within friendship groups, almost in an affectionate way - 'Oh dear, you're such a mong!' with a smile - meaning they'd been silly or absent minded or something.

So if you know the history of the word, you may find it's use offensive - but it's not always used to insult iyswim. The word has evolved IMO.

Joey?

What a twat he was, Owl Lady. You must have felt so angry/hurt.

Owllady I want to go back in time and smack that guy in the face for you.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Deacon

I don't think it has evolved in such a way that it's ceased to be offensive.

I'm quite surprised that there seem to be a good few people unaware of its offensive connotations.

theres a few definitions in the urban dictionary...not any of them particularly nice....but younger people nowadays say things when they have no idea of the original meaning....its like they speak a different language

Joey Deacon he had cerebral palsy and featured on Blue Peter in the 1970s and 1980s. His name became used as an insult the length of the country and children would do crude impressions, generally by shoving their tongue in the bottom lip. It enjoyed something of a revival in the the early 2000s when it featured in Spaced.

Well lucky for the rest of my family they didn't know what it meant either, only I did and other people in the restaurant. I couldn't even say anything as it would have been disastrous to her progress and any upset would have meant starting again (I know some of you may not know what I am on about :)) I was furious, I just kept staring at him. We got home and I bloody cried and cried.

Threads like these are good though as most people read them and then take on board that it is offensive and stop using it.

My brother always called me a retard (he's 26), I went NC with him and wish I did it sooner.

I'd never heard Joey before. That's fucking awful though. I'm sorry owl.

Absolutely horrific owl. I can only imagine how upset and angry you were.

Bloody hell! No. Not acceptable!

Cerebral Palsy is generally spaz, from the word spastic, which is one of the complications many people with CP have. I remember it being used alongside mong and flid (from children born with birth defects due to thalidomide) back in the nineties. These days none of them are really okay to use in general language because they are deemed offensive and disabilist.

My best friend has CP, with spasticity in her legs, and I discovered that I too have spasticity in one leg due to hip and foot problems causing my calf muscle to essentially just be taut all the time. I'm not sure generally whether people would also consider the label spastic offensive, but it's essentially what my friends main condition is, and how physiotherapists described my own issue.

Well I have learnt something. I was a kid in the 60s and don't ever remember hearing it

Owl that's dreadful. I have a dd with LD so if it'd been me Id have watched like a hawk and if either of them had left the table to head for the toilet or outside for a smoke Id have followed them to rip them a new one give them a piece of my mind. That sort of ignorant discrimination gets my blood boiling.

Fwiw Joey Deacons story changed my life, at the ripe old age of 7. I never understood why it was such an insult.