Cheryl VD is actually very talented

[raranah]

I dont get why everyone always says she can't sing and isnt talented.

Video below of her performing an amazing dance routine and singing live.

She's undeniably very talented!

Plenty of time, sparkling.

I've never assaulted anyone or racially abused them. As a teenager or an adult.

Why have you called her VD? I thought she was Fernandez Versini.

Ok, I withdraw the racist allegation. The rest of my post still stands.

What do you mean Helmet?

I neither find violence laughable however I do find it funny that other adults, call her a bully for a one of incident that happened 12 years ago, but go on to show bullying traits themselves!

At no point did I state that violence was laughable, again I will say that I find people who accuse her of bullying laughable.. yet verbally abuse another adult pot, kettle, and black!

But I am really not getting into a discussion over Cheryl.

I meant if it's something you really want to do, you can do it.

Not that I think you/anyone should.

We really haven't all been there. I've done some stupid shit but I've never been violent in my life.

She wasn't convicted of the racist allegation and there's a bit of a blur over that...

However guardian or telegraph says she "showed no remorse".

There's whacking a random person in an attack, there's a self important pop star wannabe kicking off to someone she considered lower than herself eg a toilet attendant and then punching her... The attendant probably could not defend herself due to fears of losing her job or didn't realise part of her job description meant a gobby woman lamping her one and abusing her verbally.

I've neither beat anyone up, and been arrested for it!

However she has been punished in a court of law, and served her sentence, over a decade ago. I personally wont hold her it over her for the rest of her life, personally I am not the woman i was 12 years ago, and I don't think she is also.

Well ive been in a few alcohol fuled fights when younger. Its normal really. You've only got to watch Geordie shore to know it easily escalates.

Well thanks for that Helmet but beating someone up isn't on my to do list believe it or not.

OP I think your version of normal and ours are very different. It's not a badge of honour to be in an escalated alcohol fuelled fight you know.

raranah it isn't the norm to be in alcohol fuelled fights and from what I have seen of Geordie Shore is not a good example of the way to live your life TBH.

raranah no it is not normal. Decent human beings do not get into fights.

at Geordie Shore being used as an example of normal!

No I know, I was being silly/unfunny.

Really racially abusing and fighting toilet attendants is not something most people do, is it? Even on Geordie shore.

I don't take life advice from Geordie Shore.

It's really not normal to be in drunken fights.

OP, how do you know she wasn't using auto tune?

I neither like her or dislike her as a person, but she can't carry a tune in a bucket.

Saying that though not sure if it still remains but several sound engineers were pissed off with conditions and posted a whole load of our so called great artists without their voices being seriously manipulated, it was eye opening just how far out they were.
As you'd expect Peter Andre and Jordan were miles out.
You don't have to be able to sing to make millions out of it.

Also OP it wasn't a fight it was an attack by Chezza. See my post above giving reasons for why attendant would not or could not fight back.

I think it's nearly hide thread time because it's all a bit bonkers.

That's my kind of humour Helmet, I'd say "well there's always a first time" it doesn't translate well written down sadly.

I'm just constantly amazed that she's allowed to be a judge on a talent show when so many of the contestants are clearly better singers than she is.