Should the UK bomb Syria? Yes or no thread.

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Shall we have a little vote, here and now?

It's a big "no" from me.

5 million marched against the war in Iraq and the labour government did not give a toss.

it'sallgoing How?

I really think bombing will just increase the threat further into the long term. The more civilians we kill, the more they will turn to ISIS. The bombing campaign has made no headway.

I don't know what the answer is, until we are willing to tackle Saudi and Turkey over their roles.

No.

No.

Blythe what OYBBK said, also if we get rid of ISIS (unlikely), then Assad supporters are the group most likely to end up in charge again, backed by Russia. Dictatorship does confer a reasonable degree of stability, but obviously has its disadvantages too.

No

yes

No. Anyone added it up yet? do think we should tell the PM the result!

No

What should we do?

Sit quietly? Be nice? Cross our fingers? Allow the 'caliphate' to establish itself -in Europe?

I'm really asking because all my lovely lefty friends are publishing petitions against bombing Syria. And I just can't bring myself to sign them. Because I think we should disable them as much as possible.

UBIK

how is adding to other countries bombing going to disable them though. they have been bombed for a while now.

I can think of lots of other ways to try....but not getting our bombs doing it.

Petition has gone above 100,000.

No

Bombing means we can help
Cut off supply routes, income and communications.

Yes there will be more terrorists. There will be more terrorists even if we do nothing. We will still be under serious threat even if we do bomb.

But we can do them some damage - their income is around €1M a day if I remember correctly. It would help greatly if we could reduce that.

No, really disappointed Saturday's Guardian was pro-yes.
It's doing something for the sake of doing something not because it will actually achieve peace and may just escalate things..
If ISIS is to be fought the other countries surrounding the area have to do the fighting. I don't want our money and soldiers lives in this.

My 12 year old ds said " mum I don't want us to bomb Syria, why can't David Cameron just have a suggestion box on what to do?" So that's a no from him and a no from me.

What would you and your ds put in the suggestion box then Leaf? I'd really like to know.

Whatever we do/don't do, nobody can guarantee peace. I agree with ubik. We're high on the target list anyway.

Another that was the amount of signatures needed for the questions to be raised wasn't it? Now, will they listen to the people! I'll not be holding my breath.

No from me too.

Were our interventions in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan remotely helpful?

The dictators were keeping everyone quiet, and that included the extremists. It's not very palatable, but I imagine the majority of Syrians preferred being able to go about their business under Assad, than they do living in a war zone. Yes there were atrocities, but if you kept your head down it wasn't that bad and it was a secular society. It's not a very fashionable argument - Assad=bad.
However, Assad=a hell of a lot better than ISIS or the Taliban.

I don't know what the answer is - but bombing the ISIS HQ city (where they'll have no doubt taken loads of civilian hostages to now) doesn't sound like the greatest idea to me.

Ubik1 Agreed, but the The West and its Gulf State allies could really hurt IS and all the other mental Jihadi groups in Syria, by stopping training and funding them.

Throwing a few extra bombs around with no real strategy, is utterly pointless and most probably, counter-productive.

I just thought it was a really sweet thing to say from a child's prospective. Since what has happened in Paris ds has been really worried and scared. I have tried my best to put his mind at rest. Maybe what ds was trying to say is that there could be a better solution to air strikes. I'm proud of him as he has taken the time to think it out.

No.

No.