to think this is unacceptable

[mileend2bermondsey]

Just found out that in my hometown high school PE activities are still split by gender. The boys do football and rugby, the girls do netball and hockey. When the girls do dance, the boys do tennis. I cant believe this seperation is still going on without question.

Apparantly if a child 'kicks up a fuss' about wanting to do a sport of the opposite gender they will be allowed to do it but would be the only boy or girl in the class, hence hardly any do.

I think this is outrageous, all children should be taught all sports available as standard. Why is a seperation based on gender neccessary, and why is this still going on?

@Evans: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26477928

So, I suppose, you can do what you like. Is a helmet worn while playing rugby? If so, that would make it a sport that is less likely to result in traumatic head injury, which would increase risk for dementia.
So, I guess rugby could be safer than netball. At least for people who are so clumsy that the ball regularly hits their head. Which I was.

I shall do some more research.

I said "expecting" a school to do this" was a bit ridiculous. It is. YABU.

Pinot Shall we go back to the NORM of girls not being allowed to do metal or wood work because they prefer (according to who?) needlework and cooking? You still havent answered that, Ive asked several times.

I said that expecting a school to accommodate a few in sports isnt the norm. If you want something different then you need to find that outside the curriculum. therefore YABU

Why is giving girls and boys equal opportunities to partake in the same sports 'ridiculous'?

I guess a straight answer to a straight question is too much to ask then? Ill just leave you to it I think.

Be careful and remember to put a helmet on

You expected an answer to a given question... You wanted to go down some sort of road that isnt relevant to your OP.

YABU to expect.

That's how the bastards grind you down, Mile, never giving a straight answer. Luckily it's patently obvious to everyone reading the thread.

But Pinot - who determines who are the few? Perhaps most of the boys partaking in 'boys' sports don't actually want to do it, but the school has to provide it for the boys because people like you continue to tell them this is the Norm. If the girls wanted to do these sports, is that okay? Seeing as how the sports are already on offer, up and running, so to speak.

A different sport accommodating just a few might be something like fencing or lacrosse maybe? Rugby and football are popular sports, open to all, surely.

Mile - I did the head/desk earlier. But foolishly persevered

Other groups of people who are also less likely to take part in sport:

Disabled people.
People on lower incomes.
Black and minority ethnic people.

Maybe schools shouldn't provide equal sports opportunities for them either.

what is very obvious is men and women are allowed to be different. Leave the poor sods alone with something, stop trying to immasculate. Fight for what should be fought for.

Fight for what should be fought for

Like choosing which sport you'd like to partake in, you mean?

Why isn't sport important?

you are so off.

I do not believe in imasculation... I believe in equality. Its a very different thing that I probably know more about than you.

Are we now arguing that girls playing football with emasculate men? Really?!

And girls not being permitted to play football is not equality?

You will never ever see mixed football nor will you see mixed rugby due to brute strength.. its a fact so I have no idea why it should be an issue. Girls can of course play all of these things. School however does not have to make this happen. Its called "mainstream" for a reason.

Aliscolatpropiis: Well, you know, the girls might be better at it! The embarrassment! The emasculation!

@pinot: I don't believe in imasculation, either. I do not believe in masculinity to start with, so it would be very silly to believe that someone can lose it.

Boys penises will not fall off when girls are allowed to play football, I promise!
(Teaching girls how to cook is much more dangerous in that regard. All those sharp kitchen knives ...)

(Thanks for that link, Vestal - interesting)

Why are you so fixated on the mixed aspect, Pinot?

Why such an argument? so you are saying that girls on the whole are the same as boys in brute strength. Ok then

Oh, PS - DD was on a mixed rugby team. It was tag rugby (up to Yr 6) but mixed, nonetheless. Her strength matched the boys, as did the other girls. They were all picked according to strength and ability.