Cinema ban on the Lord's Prayer

[Leafitout]

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Catholics IMO/E have a more Old Testament view of Christianity.

No it isn't thought control even if it was a demand.

I have never demanded people not pray for me in any case. I have asked people not to.

I ask you not to talk about me to a particular friend of yours- I expect you not to. Simple.

What if my friend is imaginary, Bertrand?

I'm not sure what part of this you think is reflecting well on you or Christianity faberge?

You don't live in North Korea, perchance?

Bingo!

Do I get a prize?

If they can't exercise sufficient self-control to avoid major distress to another individual,

Please describe, with a decent level of succinctness, how on Earth private prayer can possibly distress another individual.

Maybe you could describe why you would assume praying for someone when you'd been asked not to wouldn't cause that person distress?

Catholics IMO/E have a more Old Testament view of Christianity.

It's a different OT for starters, without Martin Luther's retconning.

God, from all accounts was/is a bit of a bastard.

Yet another example of something that would never be uttered about Mohammed or Allah on Mumsnet.

It's the same God, different prophets, different practices is all...

Faberge. As far as I understand its the same god. But for clarity, that Allah/Mohammad (insert name of made up diety here) was/is a bit if a bastard.

Please describe, with a decent level of succinctness, how on Earth private prayer can possibly distress another individual

Well, you're not even attempting private prayer, are you? You seem to be one of those Christians who feel the need to make sure people know you're praying for them.

On a thread where people have described that behaviour variously on a spectrum from irritating to, in Offred's case, upsetting, your need to let people know you were praying for them seems to trump any sense that you have an interest in other people's feelings.

What does that say about you (apart from an apparent need to revisit the gospel of Matthew)?

That's my issue, which is different from Offred's. Too many Christians can't keep their prayer in their heads or their faith to themselves and those who share it. He need to be aknowledged for the non-favour of prayer trumps any feelings the recipients have about the matter.

And it's not just Catholics or Christians I would not want to pray for me. I do not want anyone to pray for me. My upbringing has given me a strong belief in people's right to protection of belief (including religious people) and a strong aversion to being co-opted into anyone else's religion. The right to belief does not extend to the right to impose belief in others. The whole thing began when I realised I was an atheist at around age 7.

Religious violence is real

Are you saying someone praying for you when you would really rather they didn't is an act of violence??

999 how can I help?

'I'm being attacked.'

How, madam? How are you being attacked?

'I'm being prayed for when I specifically asked not to be.'

Madam, I think you need the number for MIND..

can be part of a thought process that includes proselytisation and a sense that their religion should trump others' given its rightness.

You have an erroneous view of the nature of Christian prayer.

No I'm saying as you know that at the extreme end people who believe they have the right to impose their faith on others shoot people and blow people up...

The god/s described by all three Abrahamic texts is a bit of an inconsistent arsehole, to be honest. If he rocked up on the relationships board of MN, there'd be a lot of LTBs.

And I spent long enough within a Christian faith, after attending a Christian school, and subsequently doing a fair bit of reading around comparative religion with a focus on the Abrahsmic trio, to feel secure in that statement.

The act of saying a prayer for me IS the bad thing that has happened.

Please qualify this statement.

RTFT!!!

You have an erroneous view of the nature of Christian prayer

No, you need to read the first few words of the the excerpt you quoted. The thought process that thinks it's ok to pray for someone even if you know they really don't want it can be part of the same process that makes people think it's ok to proselytise, or OK to get special privileges from the state, because it comes from a POV that the prayer knows what's best for the other person.

But hey, my posts aren't invisible to you! Good to know.