Cinema ban on the Lord's Prayer

[Leafitout]

Surely if anyone finds this advert offensive they can choose not to watch it. I can't see the problem with showing it.

"Bertrand I probably would pray for or least about that person. It would be a situation that would most likely affect me, so my prayers would concern this."

So you would completely disregard that person's wishes. I'm not really surprised, to be honest- it seems quite a common Christian attitude.

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Who are these people who would insist someone does not pray for them in private? How weird does this get? confused" Why is that wierd?

I agree that someone praying for someone else is inherently an act of kindness. I think wiccans' beliefs and rituals are absolutely bonkers but I would still think there was a kindness in them lifting me up in prayer to whatever twig or pebble they were worshipping.

Why on Earth would I see their token of concern as an 'affront' or 'patronising' or indeed an intrusion of my human bloody rights?

You wouldn't faberge. No-one is expecting you to.

I am expecting you to recognise that other people feel differently to you and have respect for that even if it isn't how you feel.

"Why on Earth would I see their token of concern as an 'affront' or 'patronising' or indeed an intrusion of my human bloody rights?"

You may not. But others might. And they should have their wishes respected, surely?

Bertrand, if you saw a drunken bleeding person in the street and he told you to 'fuck off' when you tried to help, I suppose you would run along in case you were infringing upon his human rights to bleed freely. I would insist on helping him - even a call for an ambulance.

You clearly have an agenda here, which is to paint the Christian as an ignorant and unwelcomed menace to society, forcing himself down the throats of the benign atheist. Prayer never hurt anyone - not even the most aggressive of atheists, so please....what is your problem? What angers you about someone praying for you privately?

Ego, I am sorry but I have to say this in response to your last post where you despair at collective worship in schools: I am deeply uncomfortable with trans issues being discussed at primary level; I feel strongly that it is not the place (or age bracket) for pushing this kind of social engineering. But it goes on and will continue to go on.

I actually feel it is harmful to very young children and you think worship in schools is equally harmful. What to do?

I think you've done a good job of that yourself tbh...

Your analogy is ridiculous.

It's clear you have no respect for anyone different to yourself.

Bear that in mind when expecting respect from others.

To those who insist I mustn't pray for them: you are arrogant if you think you can dictate the manner of my private supplications and meditation to the Lord.

This thread has become very weird and also amusing I have never in my life heard such utter pedantic nonsense, and I spend a lot if time surrounded by nonsense!

Why does it matter to you so much If someone is praying for you, in the privacy if their own head if you think prayer (as I do) is just speaking to ones self, whats your issue? iHow do you even know if they are? Do you just presume you are worthy of prayer and tell any Christian you meet not to pray for you? That's very odd IMO! Comparing any of this to ISIS is where I start to loose interest, if you can't see the difference, I'd suggest someone praying for you is the least if your issues

I am asking you not to pray for me.

What you do with that information is up to you.

I reserve the right to think badly of you if you choose not to respect my beliefs or feelings on the matter.

ISIS believe they have the right/duty to impose their religious beliefs on others.

The difference is only in the magnitude of the acts in pursuance of that belief.

yabu

I go to the cinema to watch a film not to watch or hear religious marketing because that is what it is about marketing Christianity

Do you check with people every time you talk, in complete confidence, about them to another person?

Well, since I'm not assuming they've sinned and asking the other person to forgive them, no. However, if I am asking the other person to help them then certainly I make sure they are OK with that first.

Faberge - Smug and arrogant is what I consider the majority of christians I come across to be. I couldn't give a flying fuck whether you pray for me or not and I still cannot fathom how supposedly intelligent people can continue to believe such utter hogwash.

However if someone has reasonably asked you to not do something which is specifically about them. Then it is rude, arrogant and sheer bloody minded to continue to do so.

Faberge, you don't think you can have faith without it having special status in the public sphere (such as schools and parliament)?

How odd.

I do not believe a true Christian can desire to not have their faith prominent in the public sphere. This is because a Christian believes that the bible is true, that Christ is the living God and they will want to obey His every command including:

(Mark 16:15) 'And [Jesus] said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. He who has believed and has been baptised shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned."'

A comment from my son, "I bet that the reason that the age of consent in the Vatican city was 12 is because that's probably the age that you get to be an alterboy..."

Minnie, hear! hear! (sigh)