Cinema ban on the Lord's Prayer

[Leafitout]

Surely if anyone finds this advert offensive they can choose not to watch it. I can't see the problem with showing it.

I cannot believe what I am reading. Just what is offensive in hearing the leading prayer of the Christian religion? It contains only words of gentleness and non violence by Jesus Christ who is revered even in the Koran as a prophet. I am offended by this decision.

"only have to look at the news- registrars thinking they shouldn't have to marry gay people, doctors and nurses being allowed to refuse to offer advice on abortion.....to name but two.

Do you think doctors and nurses who fundamentally disagree with abortion should be forced to take part in it?"

No. That's why I said "offer advice on" not "take part in"

You haven't said where it is you live that mention of God is forbidden in school.

ego not all medical staff that refuse to take part in abortion are religious, you realise that don't you?It is a very uncommon situation as these staff tend not to work in those specific areas, but it does happen, I have seen it myself.

I dont think the examples you gave are comparable at all. If a person sees abortion as murder, I don't but I understand why some feel like that, his could you in all conscience force them to take part in it?

It seems to me that all common sense and decency have gone completely out the window, you're comparing serving men first in a cafe to not wanting to carry out an aboftion The only person effected by such a stance is the nurse/doctor. Why force them into doing it against their will if there are plenty others to do it, because they just fucking should? Of course you can argue that they are discriminating, you could argue that we discriminate against people every day of our lives if you wanted to, but is there really any point?

Minniedriver- where is it you live that children are not allowed to mention God in school?

I haven't read the thread so this might have been said already. The advert has nor been banned, the cinema's have just chosen not to run it.

A cinema is a private, profit making business, if they believe that an advert is of no interest to their customer they have no obligation to play it.

Most people go to the cinema to watch a film, if they want religion they will visit a church

bert would you want advice on how to cook a steak from a vegetarian? . Would you want advice on gay marriage from a minister? I wouldn't want advice on an abortion from someone who fundamentally disagreed with it.

Saying that, I know a Doctor, he is also a minister. He is involved in the care, albeit not very often, of women during and after termination. He doesn't agree with it, it pains him he said once, but he just does it! No one forces him to, I suspect if they did he would tell them where to go!

I never said they weren't allowed to mention God, they aren't allowed to sing Christmas carols that mention God. You're right, I didn't say where I live, i have no plan to either. I'm not entirely sure what difference it makes?

m1nnie, it's relevant because if you're in England or Wales then on the face of it the school has made an error and may well be breaking the law. You introduced the issue, it's not unreasonable for other people to take an interest.

ego That is different. Their belief isn't about the woman it's about the act itself. Your comparisons are not relevant IMO.

Abortion is very different to other types of care. It involves terminating life (some people believe) no one should be forced to do that if they don't want to. Do you think, should should euthanasia be legalised, that nurses or doctors that don't agree with it should carry it out, just to prove a point?

So, the holy advert in the cinema .....

Religion has no place in a cinema

Absolutely not, I did bring it up and I'm happy to speak about it, I'm not happy to divulge where I live though despite being asked several times. The school aren't breaking the law by not singing songs that mention god.

Just read the Guardian article, they thinks its an attack on free speech? Would the Local Cof E church let me rent it out and show a film about how good Hinduism is?

I don't understand why people can't see that this is a commercial decision made by private, profit making companies.

I am very glad that cinemas have followed policy and refused to show this. We cannot allow any more religion and the divisions it brings into our public spaces

"I never said they weren't allowed to mention God, they aren't allowed to sing Christmas carols that mention God. You're right, I didn't say where I live, i have no plan to either. I'm not entirely sure what difference it makes"

Because if you are in England or Wales, the school is either breaking the law or you're lying.

And it's important because every year there are these "children aren't allowed to do nativity plays/sing carols/eat Christmas pudding/ wear paper hats" stories.They are always made up mischief making. So, unless you're prepared to say any more about it, I think the safest thing to do is assume you're lying. Because otherwise we might be damaging inter racial/interfaith relationships. And we wouldn't want that, would we?

Refusing to have carols sung publicly isn't breaking the law. However, what m1nnie said was that her children "aren't allowed to sing about God". I find it very difficult to believe that any school in England and Wales manages to have a daily act of worship on that basis, but if they actively ban them from singing about God in any circumstances that would be discriminatory and unlawful.