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Oh my god cannot believe what has happened in Paris

103 replies

Translator1000 · 14/11/2015 09:07

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34814203

What do we do now?

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ginmakesitallok · 14/11/2015 09:09

The same as we did yesterday, but with a heavier heart.

SummerNights1986 · 14/11/2015 09:15

What can you do? Carry on.

Walkacrossthesand · 14/11/2015 09:32

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Dawndonnaagain · 14/11/2015 09:33

These, walk are the people the refugees are trying to escape from. Angry

SagaNorensLeatherTrousers · 14/11/2015 09:34

Walk Hmm

Jackie0 · 14/11/2015 09:35

I don't know.
What can we do?
Put our trust in the security services and the government that they are doing everything in their power to keep us safe I suppose.
Such frightening times.

WidowWadman · 14/11/2015 09:35

FFS walk, what an idiotic offensive thing to post.

Oysterbabe · 14/11/2015 09:39

walk what a truly moronic comment.

BlueJug · 14/11/2015 09:42

Long thread already in chat about this. A mix of views.

Most people shocked, stunned; some have friends and family there or know the city. ( I used to live in the 10th arr.). I work there sometimes.

Horrible, horrible. Thoughts with the victims and people of Paris, but what is there to say?

I am going to Oxford St. and Piccadilly Circus today as planned and my DD is going to a rock concert in Germany. Of course you think twice but as said further upthread - we carry on as before. No doubt there is a risk though.

Oysterbabe · 14/11/2015 09:46

Whilst I am hypothetically in full agreement with carrying on as before, DH, me and baby are supposed to be going to Paris during the Euros in June. Baby and I will now not be going. I just think a football tournament is the kind of event that may be targeted. DH will still go with some mates though.
How awful for those poor, poor people. Terrifying times.

Walkacrossthesand · 14/11/2015 09:47

I hesitated before posting, but I fear it is a possible interpretation. Clearly it's felt to be an offensive thought so I won't say any more. Sickened by the attack.

Translator1000 · 14/11/2015 09:48

IMO

Maybe it is too late, but pull out (militarily) of all conflict in the Middle East and support the peace process between Israel and Palestine, with the accent being on the settlers moving out of the territories they have occupied.

Helping to rebuild the countries that we helped to destabilise in the first place - eg. Libya.

I don't know where that would leave all the innocent people suffering at the hands of Isis etc Sad. Or even how you go about "helping to re-build" a country when there are murderers running wild.

And I agree with Jeremy Corbyn that we should be apologising for our involvement in Iraq.

Is anybody scared that we will eventually find ourselves in another world war?

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batshitlady · 14/11/2015 09:55

Unbelievable, my heart goes out to those affected, their families and friends. I've been desperately depressed since I first heard about it - this morning. Can't help thinking, imagining what the loved ones must be going through. I feel guilty smiling, laughing when such suffering is going on, so close by....

Innocent people, mostly young, who probably had a lot of sympathy to what innocent civilians in the Middle East have had to face, are now dead. All down to some deluded, shit-for-brains who got themselves guns.

Brioche201 · 14/11/2015 09:56

I think the main question will be do we change our stance on taking in refugees

Translator1000 · 14/11/2015 09:57

(Sorry should have looked at chat).

It is very depressing batshitlady Sad.

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Thestressofit · 14/11/2015 09:58

The Syrian education minister has said that a few ISIS fighters will be amongst the refugees. He has no official stats and how indeed could he. The absolute vast majority of refugees will be just that people fleeing in fear. But it is naive to think they will not try and infiltrate this way.

After WWII many nazis that should have been prosecuted disappeared in the chaos of post war Europe.

Brioche201 · 14/11/2015 10:03

if,in the west,the west we could decrease of our dependence on oil, we would not get to involved in the middle east.

yorkshapudding · 14/11/2015 10:08

Those going on about refugees, no legitimate news sources have published ANY evidence whatsoever at this point that the attackers came from outside of France. Not that this will stop those with anti-immigration views exploiting this tragedy to push their own agenda.
I'm horrified by what has happened in Paris. I'm also equally horrified that almost as soon as the news broke people saw fit to set fire to a refugee camp in Calais in supposed "retaliation". Because fighting hate with yet more hate has worked so well thus far Hmm

TheTigerIsOut · 14/11/2015 10:10

Sorry, I don't think pulling out of military conflict in the middle east is an option. After all, we voted to stay out of Syria, and we are still a good valuable target for IS.

I often wonder how things would have been, if the IS problem had been nipped in the bud, even when I actively wanted Britain to stay out of Syria. To pull out now would just give them the space to grow and the belief that they can do whatever with civilians here or back in where they are.

sunniest · 14/11/2015 10:11

If anything, these are the people the refugees are trying to escape from.

TheTigerIsOut · 14/11/2015 10:16

And no, we are notgoing into another WW, we are already there, it is just that technological and intelligence developments mean that people are not sent in mass to kill anyone pointing a gun while wearing the other team's uniform.

Things have become more target specific, which has resulted in much less nlood shed, but we are in a war... No doubt of it.

Holowiwi · 14/11/2015 10:16

Can we at least wait to see who these terrorists were before we start all the bullshit comments and blaming immigrants for all the problems.

Chippednailvarnish · 14/11/2015 10:16

Agree with Brioche take our dependency on oil out of the equation and the world will be a much happier place.

howtorebuild · 14/11/2015 10:19

If anything, these are the people the refugees are trying to escape from

Yes and who will give us refuge if Isis keep this up in Europe?

ArmchairTraveller · 14/11/2015 10:22

' I'm also equally horrified that almost as soon as the news broke people saw fit to set fire to a refugee camp in Calais in supposed "retaliation".'

Wasn't that old footage posted on FB? The accidental fire from last year?