to think that this 'transsexual' Jesus play should not get public funding?

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I would say 'no words' but how about "disgusting, insulting, disrespectful, immoral..." need I go on? How does this awful thing get 'public funding' - I'd be demanding a refund of my council tax. Enough already!

Expressing surprise at my age would rather indicate that you thought I was significantly younger, thereby implying that I have learned little throughout my life, stating that none of my posts have any measure, in your opinion, of erudition, and stating that I need to apply a little more intelligent thought are all statements of attack.
You attacked, Faberge, you were rude and you are behaving in the manner of a troll. Yes, I shall report the post.

This is laughable in that you haven't offered an argument.

neither have you. You have stated how you feel about a certain topic. That's it. You share this opinion with others (notably the OP), and it's been noted. it's not clear what you want any of us to do about it, if anything.

Report away, I know I have.

Just because you find the truth about the vacuousness of your posts a little hurtful you mustn't try to conflate that to 'I am being attacked'.

neither have you. You have stated how you feel about a certain topic. That's it. You share this opinion with others (notably the OP), and it's been noted. it's not clear what you want any of us to do about it, if anything.

Um. Eh? I've answered all the questions/accusations thrown at me (which is more than can be said for anyone else here).

What do I want you to do about it? What an absurd question on a discussion forum.

Faberge you're just making yourself look a touch bitter and daft now. I'd give up if I were you.

Yes, I thought that was what you were diving at: I should go away and shut up.

Nice attempt at closing me down.

driving

I've answered all the questions/accusations thrown at me (which is more than can be said for anyone else here).

You haven't answered the question of why anyone should care that you are outraged. Why the fact that you are outraged should have any effect on this play. You haven't answered why any of us should take the bible as the definitive word on the life of Jesus, as it's plainly not a historically accurate account of his life. You haven't answered why, beyond your christian beliefs and the bible, portraying Jesus as transgendered is "misgendering" him, or why that's bad.

if all you have is your christian beliefs and the bible, then as I have said your opinion is noted.

If we look at all of the Gospels we see that each writer put down what he felt was important or was present for.

The gospels are not first-hand accounts. They were written many years later after the events that they depict. Your explanation that the writers only included things they felt were important suggests that 3 of the 4 writers knew about Lazarus, but did not feel that his resurrection was significant. I find that explanation implausible. Why no mention of this event in the first letter to the Corinthians?

Matthew tells us that many holy men were resurrected in Jerusalem on the day of Jesus' death. Why didn't they join the apostles? Why are they absent from all other accounts?

I've answered all of the above, you just don't like the answers. Except 'why should anyone care that you are outraged.' I never said you should care.In fact, I have attested to the fact that, if one does not believe that Christ is the Son of the living God then one would not expect to be bothered in the least by this play.

Why..beyond your Christian beliefs and bible... Now I really am bored.

Bumble, there are many examples of miracles and events being documented in only one (or sometimes two or three) of the Gospels. It doesn't mean the event itself was insignificant. The bible is amazingly accurate: all prophecies from Isaiah, for example (written 1500 years before Christ's birth) came to pass. It is extraordinary. You do not believe in the accuracy of Scripture and believe that anything not written in all four gospels to be proof of fiction. I'm not sure where we can go from there.

Have you read any respected commentaries around the subject of Lazarus? I will go and do some research if you would like?

I never said you should care.In fact, I have attested to the fact that, if one does not believe that Christ is the Son of the living God then one would not expect to be bothered in the least by this play.

OK. well, that is certainly indisputable.

Why..beyond your Christian beliefs and bible... Now I really am bored.

ahhhh, so your responses are mainly for a Christian audience? That makes more sense. Carry on then.

all prophecies from Isaiah, for example (written 1500 years before Christ's birth) came to pass. It is extraordinary.

It is only extraordinary if you could show that the authors of the gospels were entirely ignorant of the writings of Isaiah. If on the other hand, the object of writing the gospels was to depict Jesus as the Messiah, then it is entirely ordinary that the stories they include show that he fulfilled the prophesies. There is no evidence from outside the Bible that anything in the Gospels actually happened. In order for Jesus to be the Messiah, he needed to fulfil the prophesies. They were convinced he was the Messiah, therefore he must have fulfilled the prophesies. The gospels are not historical accounts.

It seems to me that the resurrection of the dead is so central to Christian faith that the miracle of Lazarus is an inexplicable exclusion from the Synoptic gospels. Why does Paul make no mention of it to the Corinthians?

Faberge, have a look at what you have posted about DawnDonna. Are those posts in accordance with christian principles and teaching?

"It is extraordinary."

No it isn't. The gospels were written in retrospect. Of course the prophesies were fulfilled.

My prophecy is that Faberge will get increasingly angry, hurl more insults about, accuse people of not being real Christians, then leave the thread in a fury, to appear on another, similar thread in a week or two.

I suspect you're right, Bertrand, but it looks like we won't hear from her again as Faberge.

Do lots of people have a recognisable posting style?

I recognise some people...but not very many

I have enormous problems with people who claim to be the only 'real' Christians. Claiming you are the only 'real' anything is at the root of every terrorism problem we have and historically was at the root of every real persecution humanity ever inflicted on its own.

I have seen this play and it is absolutely beautiful and full of love, and there isn't an inappropriate, ugly or blasphemous word in it. Don't make assumptions. And yes, I am a Christian - have been since I was baptised in Westminster Cathedral nearly sixty years ago.

That whole argument, 'Oh the bible is full of prophecies which came true so Christianity must be right' is actually blasphemous.

That whole Jesus in the desert being tempted by the devil and told to chuck himself off the temple and see if God caught him thing. You're not supposed to demand that one's faith be confirmed by signs, you're not supposed to test your own faith by demanding that it's proven. Faith alone is supposed to be enough.

Just sayin'....

Was she banished (again), Gruntled?

Not sure, MaudGonne, but maybe the ongoing silence tells its own tale.

I don't often recognise posting style. I would simply comment that there is a certain very aggressive, rude and purportedly Christian posting style which has in the past very recognisably come from one particular pbp.

OP wouldn't it have been better asking mums netters how government should be spending funding better? personally things like this thread will put people's backs up and it will not exactly give other christians on this board a good reputation and make us look judgmental.

Faberge if you're going to quote from a website it would be usual to link to where you got the information. You posted the words below which were copied from www.rottenchestnuts.com/is-jesus-liberal-or-conservative/

What is very ironic is that most of those who sling the “Jesus is a liberal” slogan probably don’t even believe in God, much less in the divinity of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Rather, this statement is used as a club to attempt to shame Christian conservatives into silence, especially on the social issues of our time. The thinking goes that liberals are closer to the example Jesus set, simply because they favor more income redistribution (“welfare”) by the government. Their specious logic tells them that they are more compassionate than are conservatives, simply because the latter believe that charity for the downtrodden should:

1. Come from private rather than public sources
2. Be accompanied by a plan to return recipients to a productive role whenever possible.

Liberals foolishly believe themselves to be more like Jesus, because they just love love love everyone as Jesus did – conveniently forgetting that Christ also demanded personal responsibility and moral accountability, as conservatives do today.