To be disturbed by the "Prepping" board.

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Is this a thing now?

Is there really a need to be stockpiling food, medicines and creating a bolt hole?

Am i missing something? Seriously (this is not a light-hearted thread), i suffer from anxiety and this is really disturbing me.

Hopefully people have just been watching too much walking dead.

Ok I don't ascribe to a no-sharing philosophy in times of crisis. The way I see it humans are hugely resourceful and adapatable and able to organise themselves, many communities manage to function with little outside support. It wouldn't make sense to me to divide the world into prepper and non prepper at any stage of social calamity esp the most extreme scenarios as other people and their myriad skill sets would still be the greatest resource. Deciding ahead that it's rational to let a neighbour starve while being comfortably stocked is a pretty dark way of thinking to me.

I like planning in terms of sustainable and somewhat self-sufficient lifestyles as a more hopeful and longterm approach if we are talking of more long term problems.

im not sure what I will wear when Armageddon comes,

At least we will have lots fo dishwasher tablets tesco bogof

Salem why would you feel that you were entitled to steal from someone who has prepared, effectively placing the responsibility for your DD on me rather than taking some responsibility for her yourself and preparing now? I know it's just hypothetical we're talking here but I don't understand this entitlement mentality that "I can't be arsed prepping but if I need to I'll just steal from someone who has". It's just like saying you can't be arsed getting home insurance but if your stuff gets robbed and you need to replace it you EXPECT your neighbhours to fund it, rather than taking responsibility for yourself.

But sanpro is an umbrella term for mooncups, tampons, pads, panty liners, period pants? What alternative word is there, wecan and salem?

salem just google argentine economic crisis c1998-2002 . I'm quite surprised you haven't heard it. There is a lot of information on it.

You don't starve to death in 2 weeks, for goodness sake.

they will die no matter what I do

Well no, if you continue to share your food, they won't die no matter what you do.

the only prepping type conversation we ever have here is what we would do if we were locked in our gigantic Waitrose food and home overnight.
General consensus is we would start at the Deli

For 2 weeks dont?

i think some people LIKE the thought of dying folk

Must be great at a party!

Through I've heard of the Argentinian economic crisis. But there was no mass starvation. Why are you suggesting there was?

"Deciding ahead that it's rational to let a neighbour starve while being comfortably stocked is a pretty dark way of thinking to me. "

Warmastoast I don't have that belief as a moral view, it's more about necessity. If I knew for sure that I could share with a neighbhour and still have enough for myself to last through the emergency and I knew for sure I wouldn't get looted then I would share. But SHTF scenarios all over the world in the past consistently show that those who don't have supplies tend to be violent towards those who do. So you can hopefully see why I'm not keen on letting anyone know, I don't want to be a target if SHTF.

My response to that is that I'm not "allowing" anyone to die, I just don't have enough supplies to sustain them as well as myself. They're going to die anyway, whether or not I give them one meal. All I'd be doing by that is prolonging their agony for another few days or weeks.

Out of interest, what would you do if a DC was visiting you when it all went to tits. They aren't family, just a friend of your children. Would you kick them out rather than let them deplete your supplies?

Most prepping is just taking sensible precautions:

• doing a winter car check and keeping basic essentials in the boot in case of snow.

• making sure you have working smoke alarms and that everyone knows what to do in the event of a house fire.

• Budgetting and setting aside some rainy day savings.

• Having a bag you can grab if you need to leave the house in a hurry for some reason: flooding, gas leak, sink hole etc.

Building a bunker and whatnot is more of a hobby.

I also think sharing with starving neighbours might be a good idea even for self preservation purposes. More pairs of hands, really. Somebody else to go and loot/ hunt/ have information. Someone sharing their beans is more likely to be given some spoils by them or be lend a hand raising a shelter etc.

I like the preppers board, even if I might not use it, just like the Christmas board, one less topic filling up AIBU and preppers (or all-year-round Santas) can find each other.

People seem really upset at people who dare to 'prep'

Meh, it doesn't upset me, but it did upset the OP who has anxiety. It is a little bit scaremongery.

Plus, don't you think it's a little bit out of place to be talking about allowing the neighbour's children to 'starve to death' on a parenting website? I know we discuss all sorts, but really?

"Well no, if you continue to share your food, they won't die no matter what you do."

But I don't have an infinite supply. And remember that every piece of food I give them is shortening the amount I have for myself. If I only have enough food for me, sharing with someone doesn't mean I can save them to, at least not without sacrificing myself to save them.

Yeah I did through. Still can't find links on mass starvation and preppers though, may be my bad Google skills to be fair.

Because it's the apocalypse Dont. If your tin of Heinz will stop my DD starving my moral compass may go a little skew whiff.

I agree reni, it's just a term that makes my teeth itch.

I haven't said there was mass starvation Maud, where did I say that? I don't know if there was, I shall watch the documentary and let you know the exact nature of the hardships ensured shall I? Or you could.

I'm sure the people who had prepared for it would have done better than those who hadn't.

Meh, it doesn't upset me, but it did upset the OP who has anxiety. It is a little bit scaremongery.

It's in its own topic that you dont have to click on. Or they threads are fairly self explanatory.

I find threads about DV very triggering. I avoid them and if I click one and the title isn't clear and it turns out it's about DV. I hide the thread.

Plus, don't you think it's a little bit out of place to be talking about allowing the neighbour's children to 'starve to death' on a parenting website? I know we discuss all sorts, but really?

you mean during a situation that is made up from someone's 'paranoia'.

If it's not going to happen.....it's not going to happen.

I'm sure you'll enjoy your new life holed up in your cellar with your cans of beans and poo bucket, DontHave while everybody starves around.

I mean, is this really a thing? If things really go to pot, you'll be over-run by marauders who will be looting all the houses - not just the ones they think have food in.

Well, Through, you answered laughing's question:

Don't - actually it is VERY hard to imagine a situation in a 1st world country in the 21st century where there would be an 'emergency' which led to vast swathes of the population literally starving to death and hoping to rob their neighbours who had 'prepared'. Can you point me to a situation where that has happened or even nearly happened?.

with Argentina 2002

So you're not actually saying that this was an emergency which led to vast swathes of the population literally starving to death, or coming close to starving to death?

Great - that's the point Salem and I were making

Oh so you've found it now salem, what a little bit of knowledge Google can show you eh?