"Ginger boys are just ugly"

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Just wanted to rant

Had 32wk consultant appointment today, sat in tiny waiting room with about 15 other people all crammed in and there's two women sat opposite DP and I chatting to each other, conversation goes something like "have you ever thought that your baby could be ginger" "oh god no don't say that, I wouldn't mind so much if it was a girl but ginger boys are just ugly, yuk"

DP was sat next to me and could hear the whole thing, he is ginger and so is our 14 month old DS. How rude can you get?!
DP wears a cap constantly when he's out because he got teased in school about it.

What difference does it make what colour hair you have? It's just a colour the same as brown, blonde, black are colours! Thinking about it now it's really making my blood boil and if I could turn back time I wish I'd have said something to them instead of staying quiet because I didn't want to cause an argument.
Idiots

So beautiful!

It is not unreasonable to have a type but is horrible to declare everyone with a particular skin/ hair type ugly. Good call on the xenophobia rather than racism though.

OP they were rude and ignorant and I too would have been so angry.

My DD is a ginge and has grown into a beautiful, confident teenager who loves her hair and is comfortable in her pale skin

Moths to a flame is my experience when it comes to people complimenting her on her hair.

Oh and Ginger boys are NOT ugly! What vile people to have a conversation like that anyway. Dismiss them, don't waste your energy on them.

Just need to add Michael Fassbender among the hot gingers.

Not even slightly ugly!

funny so many folks against red but its a really popular colour when women go grey or in their teens they all want to dye it red to stand out ironic huh

I don't think dyed hair and naturally ginger hair are the same really.

I think as a PP said, it's often the pale skin, freckles, ginger eyelashes and eyebrows that accompany natural hair that some people don't like.

I don't know why people have to be rude about it though...it's just a bloody hair colour.

Mind you, I don't know why some people get so 'gushy' over it either because again...it's just a bloody hair colour.

I certainly wouldn't class it as racist, but many of the vile comments about red hair I've heard since I've lived in the UK are definitely associated implicitly with anti-Irishness, like the incredible prejudice against certain Irish male names you get on the Mn baby names forum. I don't think the two prejudices are unassociated.

(Possibly anti-Scottishness, too, but as an Irish person (though without red hair) I heard less of that.)

Attractive ginger men

no not the same as racism but the same sort of ignorant hatred is there, the sort of hatred that lacks any sort of intelligence. In that sense it is the same.

I remember in primary school my teacher showing us a video a lady called Jane Elliot in America, and her blue eyes/brown eyes test to demonstrate racism or just plain discrimination of any sort. I was young but I recall thinking this is heart wrenching stuff, and why would any human treat someone different because they had blue eyes as opposed to brown? Of course it was to demonstrate the sort of unfair treatment African black Americans received at the time i.e segregation.

Well the same reasoning can be applied to the idiots who seem to hate ginger hair. Not liking particular hair colour or eye colour is one thing but despising it, and mocking those who have it now that stinks of ignorance and stupidity at its highest level.

Oh god, OP that woman is mad. There are so many gorgeous ginger boys and men out there. It's a totally ridiculous thing to say.

When I was a teen I had an absolute obsession with a boy with red hair I used to see at the swimming pool every week. He was so gorgeous - and did fabulous dives off the high board

But there's no denying it that there seem to be a large proportion of twats out there that see it as something to pick on. I saw a very good program on the BBC about people with red hair - they covered various things, eg. they got a top advertising company to design an ad to improve the profile of red hair. They came up with "Winner : Loser"

Winner: Winston Churchill vs Loser: Hitler

Winner: Boris Becker vs Loser: Tim Henman

But you only have to look at people like Prince Harry, Damian Lewis, Eddie Redmayne to know that 'gingerism' is only perpetuated by utter twats.

My friend married a ginger man and was desperate to have ginger babies. Her two ginger boys are so gorgeous it's not true. I love their ginger curls.

I do not understand why people feel free to slag off someone else's natural hair colour. It's daft, imagine saying 'I don't find blond hair attractive' or 'I don't find brown hair attractive'. It's far to broad a category. There are ugly people who happen to be ginger and there are beautiful people who happen to be ginger.

Amazed to discover Ewan McGregor is considered ginger though, I think that means I am as well.

I well aware that ds has been patronised for his hair colour

but by far he gets far more compliments, it is quite an unusual colour its very golden. a girl of about 14 came up to us the other day and said look same hair ds was not impressed he does not want to look like a girl

I'm not sure if it's xenophobic either.

I went to Catholic primary and Catholic secondary school, in a hugely Irish populated area, and kids still got bullied for being ginger.

The bullies were mostly of Irish descent, as were the kids who got bullied.

And just to show the love of the ginger is not a recent thing...

I love gingers/redheads. DH has a ginger beard if he grows one.

Our DS (26) has auburn/red hair - no pale eyelashes or freckles though - and whilst I don't think he was actually bullied at his (independent) school as a result, he did start dyeing his hair dark brown when he was about 17 and in the sixth form. I tried to dissuade him but ended up helping him , then we had a letter from school saying he was to dye it back to its natural colour which pissed me off because if his hair had been naturally dark brown they wouldn't have said anything......it wasn't as though he dyed it an unnatural colour!

When he went off to uni he carried on dyeing it for a while then during his second year he gradually went back to his natural colour. Now he's happy to be a redhead. His g/f of 10 years loves it

Pretty is pretty. Sexy is sexy. Hair colour/skin tone/size etc doesn't come into it as no one fits everyone's profile. Its just ignorance to band everyone together.

I have ginger and gorgeous exes and ugly brunette and blonde exes. Nothing is exclusive!

giddylimit I was wondering when someone would post that.

I've spent the day Without my ginger haired teenager because he's been out on a date and I've counted at least three different girls on Skype with him tonight. I can tell you he is not short of admirers and that's because he's gorgeous. Gorgeous and ginger. Who would have thunk it .

Cactus, racism isn't solely about racism towards black people and I really do mean that respectfully.
If a group of people ie gingers are mocked regularly and this is seen as acceptable then I do think it can negatively affect lives.
Examples of hit a ginger day, acceptable low level bullying ignored by teachers as there is no directive about not picking on gingers, low self-esteem attributable to school and life experiences of being perceived as ugly.
Ultimately a group has been identified as being of a lower standard than the norm and I don't think any of us should stand back and think this is acceptable.
It may not be on a par with historical and current racism towards black people in society, but as mothers and people educated in the negatives associated with people being perceived as less worthy, surely this should be nipped in the bud early

Benedict Cumberbatch looks distinctly ginger here

I had a huge crush on Rick Astley and I'm in love with Eddie Redmayne. Don't listen to them. Gingers are gorgeous!!!

How rude and offensive.

Sad that they are so ignorant.