to think that if a surgeon refuses to operate until you lose 21/2 stone than you should br offered some support with said weigt loss.

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So I need an operation. I am not a fool so know that losing weight makes sense before going under thr knife. So I asked my GP for help. They told me I didn't qualify for help as I don't get free prescriptions. This is a complete turnaround as the surgery used to offer nurse led clinics. It now does Slomming World referrals for people in receipt of free prescriptions.
so whilst waiting to see consultant I managed to lose maybe 10lbs.
I basically saw the Consultant who basically told me to come back in 4 months and they will book op if I have lost the best part of 21/2 stone.
Now I know this is a great incentive to lose weight but they are expecting me to lose more than the recommended 1 to 2lbs per week without support.
yet on the NHs podcast there is a woman on there with a lower BMiI than me who had no major health issues. She didn't want to pay out fow a slimming club so she went to GP and they referred her to dietician and prescribed Orlisat.
So it seems that support is there but not in my case. Obviously I am not asking for medication but I would have hoped they could offer something.
Realise I am probably being unreasonable but just fed up.

I lost over 4 stone in a year, using Myfitnesspal. Download the app, buy some scales (keep them in your bedroom, if you don't want your girls to have access).
You can do it! Good luck.

Thank you

Have a look at the low carb threads, there's a boot camp running at the minute.

I tried WW and SW and both worked short term but I couldn't stick to them and frankly found some of the foods awful nutritionally fucking Muller lights

I'm now low carbing and find it better for appetite control, eating real food and for general health a d energy.

haven't read whole thread - but near the top the OP said she lost weight by counting calories and doing more exercise.

it works. Amazing, eh?

that is a challenging target in the time, but the op will probably get postponed anyway, welcome to our overloaded NHS. Certainly no money for scammy clubs and stupid fad diets. The best exercise aid is the front door. (Mind you, we could do without the waste of money that is change4 life)

no need for leak-out-the-bum drugs. The OP knows what to do and has done it already.

special what I expected to happen was to be told we will book your surgery for x date as long as you have lost y. The way it has been left was to be told we will see you in 4 months. If you have lost the weight we will book op. This I presume will entail another 10 week wait. It just worries me that the problen could deteriorate in that time and I could develop complications. (Plus it is restricting the type of exercise and indeed work I can do.

Interesting glen. I am afraid I am guilty of having carbs bread, potato or pasta with most meals.

Haven't you posted about this before?

Wtaf - you are moaning about having to lose weight for an operation that your body needs.

Stick on a pair of trainers and walk and walk for ages, you will soon lose the weight and your appetite. You can do this just get outside and move.

Stick on a pair of trainers and walk and walk for ages, you will soon lose the weight and your appetite. You can do this just get outside and move.

Naturally this course of action is particularly easy for overweight people with health problems.

It would be hilarious if it weren't so absurd.

Yeah, when I was over weight the first time I lost about 5lbs a week for a couple weeks before it leveled off to about 1.5 - 2lbs. If you have a lot to shed those first few pounds will come off fast. The last stubborn 10 are going to be the hardest.

senpai in the past I have had similar losses in the early days but not this time. Time to hide this thread I think.

I agree about myfitnesspal. It helped me lose all my baby weight and I still use it now to track what I eat and the excercise I do, that's how I've kept it off. Once you've used it for a few days you get used to tracking everything.

The key thing is to be honest with yourself and to stop making excuses. There could be a million things to blame before you accept it's your own responsibility.

I understand how hard it is as before having my son I went up 3 sizes and it was a challenge to lose it. Sometimes it feels like an ongoing battle but once you've achieved it it feels great. Good luck!

So the doctor wouldn't prescribe orlistat because you don't get free prescriptions?

You can buy it over the counter, btw. Those 'Ali' pills are similar & have the same drug in them.

I wouldn't advise ever using diet pills though. Kind of an opposite to the above, but I was once heavily addicted!

Good luck with the weight loss, I understand how hard it is, feel free to message if you want a weight loss pal!

Yes, PrimalLass, about a month ago or so? Still not taking responsibility, then.

My husband was told he had to lose 2 1/2 stones before a hip operation. That was in May. The consultant recommended 5:2 which dh stuck to rigidly. He had his op on August 28th having lost almost 3 stones just on that diet. It took will power but the incentive of being pain free worked a treat.

the OP has said she has hidden the thread so no point addressing further replies to her

I don't weigh myself at all and have successfully dropped a dress size in five weeks, it is not essential to jump on the scales all the time, in fact it can be a deterrent.

If you eat sensibly, cut out snacks, fatty treats and alcohol, and up your exercise a little most people will lose weight. I appreciate it is easier said than done but you can do it, if you want to.

I agree about the fatuous nature of the 'put on a pair of trainers' advice. I did this literally until my arthritic body packed up, and I ended up just as fat, probably fatter actually, but in a pain management clinic being told off for overdoing it. My pain management group at the hospital was full of motivated and high-achieving people who had made things a lot worse through excessive exercise and overly strict dieting, combined with poor drug regimes instead of regular ones by attempting to avoid taking medicines, and knackered metabolisms with associated stomach issues from being prescribed too many anti-inflammatory drugs at random times by uninformed GPs in order to be able to 'up the exercise' and 'lose weight'. A few of us had had breakdowns in the face of all these challenges, actually.

Some people are very ignorant and bloody smug about all this stuff. They should just fuck off.

I just wanted to also recommend MyFitnessPal and also vote for your buying some scales.

I lost 2 stone with MFP - once you get the hang of it it's v quick and you rapidly realise where you are wasting calories everyday - and the vast quantities of sugar we eat. It isn't so good for logging exercise though as it tends to overestimate how many calories you've used.

Most weight loss is diet not exercise as well - exercise is obvs healthy but it doesn't burn masses of calories off, the main thing is the eating less.

I also found a US study of people who had successfully lost weight and kept it off v helpful - they had several things in common:
They ate breakfast everyday
They treated every day the same - no relaxing rules at weekends
The weighed themselves everyday - allowed them to make daily adjustments if weight started to drift back up
They were more successful if they viewed it as a lifestyle change for a health reason than a drop a dress size diet

For me, weighing myself once a week is not enough. I get too nervous, it puts me off doing it and if I don't do it the weight just drifts up - and when I do weigh myself it's depressing and motivation is gone. Everyday, same time of day, it's just a routine check to make sure I'm on the right track.

TBH I find weighing myself on very accurate electronic scales is a very useful weight loss tool. It hasn't made me obsessive, I just enter it into MFP and track upward and downward trends over time. I think it's helpful to do that.

I meant to say 'daily' as well

You said that you are hungry all the time. Eating lots of carbs can cause this, especially eating wheat. I was diagnosed celiac and had to stop eating gluten. I have found that I am a lot less hungry. I still eat potatoes and rice, so no need to buy any special food. If you read the book "Wheat Belly" it explains that eating wheat hugely raises your blood sugar level and makes you hungry again.

I lost 10 lbs quite quickly eating this way, and was only a size 8 to 10 to start with.

They treated every day the same - no relaxing rules at weekends

rather out of sync with the 5:2 message!

If you have spent any significant amount of time with raised bodyfat levels then some damage has been done such that a higher level of body fat becomes the default setting

Your body 'wants' to be fat and you will always be fighting against it's various mechanisms designed to return you to that default level of fatness ?

Slimming world is fantastic if you are always hungry as there are free foods like pasta, rice, potatoes, fruit, some yoghurts, lean meats and vegetables which have no limit. Everything is allowed in moderation. You tend to loose a bit quicker at the outset so if you could aim to neither gain or loose over Xmas you will be fine. You can do it.