to think that if a surgeon refuses to operate until you lose 21/2 stone than you should br offered some support with said weigt loss.

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So I need an operation. I am not a fool so know that losing weight makes sense before going under thr knife. So I asked my GP for help. They told me I didn't qualify for help as I don't get free prescriptions. This is a complete turnaround as the surgery used to offer nurse led clinics. It now does Slomming World referrals for people in receipt of free prescriptions.
so whilst waiting to see consultant I managed to lose maybe 10lbs.
I basically saw the Consultant who basically told me to come back in 4 months and they will book op if I have lost the best part of 21/2 stone.
Now I know this is a great incentive to lose weight but they are expecting me to lose more than the recommended 1 to 2lbs per week without support.
yet on the NHs podcast there is a woman on there with a lower BMiI than me who had no major health issues. She didn't want to pay out fow a slimming club so she went to GP and they referred her to dietician and prescribed Orlisat.
So it seems that support is there but not in my case. Obviously I am not asking for medication but I would have hoped they could offer something.
Realise I am probably being unreasonable but just fed up.

When I strictly have as few carbs as possible my appetite massively drops. It only takes a couple of days really and then as long as I stick to low carb I loose weight pretty steadily and it's easy because I don't have any cravings and do not feel hungry.

Sugar is addictive and the more simple carbs and sugar you eat the quicker you'll feel hungry and you'll be in a vicious circle of craving and eating very frequently. For me anyway the whole frequent eating thing does not work and just leads me to want to eat more and find it very difficult to resist. And sugar is a disaster.

And sorry but yes, I do think yabu . You're an adult. You want to loose weight. 3/4 of the battle is setting your mind to really be determined ed to do it. And also, you mentioned unreliable scales. So get some that are reliable. They aren't so expensive. I find I am more motivated when I weigh myself every day . Some advice says not to, but it's what works for me.

YABU. You need to take responsibility for yourself.

2lb a week is nothing. It's a big poo! And if you are heavier then just a fast hour long power-walk everyday will be good exercise.

Don't start looking for excuses to fail and blame someone else. Already on this thread you're blaming the NHS, the scales, the fact that it's harder for you because you have more fat,the annoying woman on the podcast, the fact that Christmas is coming, that your DH is out of work and you have to economise (cutting your food bill will help here). You need to get your head in the game and stop making excuses.

If someone told you to lose the weight and they'd give you a million pounds, you'd do it.

"If you were asking for help with stopping smoking or taking drugs you would get a totally different response.
But, fat-bashing is fine, it seems. "

I keep reading on these threads and I disagree. It is only now that you get help with giving up smoking: that is because they have nicotine substitutes on the NHS. When I gave up smoking 12 years' ago, I had to do it all by myself.

If someone invents effective weight reduction drugs, then there will be support on the NHS, I am sure. That is the way things work.

Same with depression: you can get anti-depressants but not long courses of psychotherapy.

2lb a week is actually the top end of the Nhs recommendations for losing weoght so actually it is something. Re the NHs podcast thing I was just pointing out the inaccuracies of the messsge on there. The job thing is the resson why I don't want to do slimming world etc. Re the scales I said I was going to weigh in at Boots. Also actually I don't really want a scales in the house for my girls sake.

Yabu. In a perfect world we'd all have everything we wanted from the nhs. However it has not got unlimited funds, and unlike a million and one other areas you can't get the nhs help you need, weight loss is actually free.

Are you really skint, OP? Why can't you afford some accurate scales?

Ok so fair enough the resources aren't there so take down the daft podcast than.

I don't want scales in the house as I would use them too often even though I know that weight fluctuates.

crikey you're getting a bashing on here perhaps you should ask mnhq to delete this thread apparently you're not allowed to ask for help

and i think you should qualify for help they are asking you to lose a lot in a short space of time by yourself personally i think it should be at least monitored to make sure you're not doing any damage to yourself

Okay, I get that. I had an eating disorder which is why there are no scales in my house.

You might find support with a binge-eating group, too, or OverEaters Anonymous (lots online).

There is a voucher in this weeks Bella ( I think) magazine for free Slimming world membership, then it is only a fiver a week. I started SW this week for helath reasons and so far it has been great.

Why don't you just join Slimming World if you can afford it?

Thank babyroobs will get that some thought.

have you tried weight loss chat in topics?

i took out some books from the library when i wanted to lose weight but i am cheap

OP, it sounds like you are getting a good amount of exercise - so the focus is (as PP have said) on cutting down on calories in your diet.

I don't want to state obvious things, but what's worked for us is getting rid of soft drinks / cordials - water only, or tea - and limiting takeaways / junk to one, non-shiftable day a week only.

Do you (like me) eat mindlessly in front of the TV? It's easy enough to replace with any fidgety activity / Candy Crush etc. Any other areas where you eat without really being mindful of what you're taking in?

It's difficult to offer advice without knowing more about your lifestyle and eating habits, but in the absence of a medical condition that's causing your weight gain, I'd guess that you're just taking in a lot more calories than you think or need, so you're focus needs to be (whether with a food diary or otherwise) very carefully examining what you're consuming.

The weight gain has actually been really gradual. I weigh 4 stone more than I did 15 years ago. Portion control is the big one and unsuitable snacks like crisps and choc which I have now cut out. Also wine which I will now save for special occassions. During this time I have lost some. In fact I have actually reduced my weight by 2 stone in the last 3 years.

Also going to do a food diary.

Only have sugar free drinks. Jamie Olivervwould be proud!

OP, ditch the wine, buy a decent set of scales (nothing fancy and would set you back the price of a couple of bottles of wine). You owe it to yourself to do this and the thought of being able to have the operation you need should be motivation enough. There are dozens of online tools to help too. This is not anyone else's responsibility but your own (and I really don't mean that unkindly), so the very best of luck to you. You can do it.

Firstly, bloody well done on the weight loss, and well done on wanting to lose more.

Had to at it's just willpower.

I gave up smoking 30 a day first time I tried. Can I stay at a healthy BMI - nope. If only life were so simple.

If you want to get in the zone I'd recommend Exante - it's food replacement but it shifts weight quick. I did SW and lost 4 stone (have kept 2 off now for 10 years) but it gave me a diseased gallbladder, which has gone thank goodness. I lost half a stone in a week and its stayed off. About to do another week. I stopped feeling hungry after day 2.

If you use the offers it doesn't need to be pricey either - just a thought.

Sounds like you're heading in the right direction with food - keep it going!

Please keep the consultant's 4 month notice as a deadline to yourself. I find it impossible to diet / lose weight where I feel that I can never eat crisps, never get a pizza etc, but doing it for a set amount of time is much more manageable. (Another reason why I am a 5:2 convert - holding out until the next day is feasible even with limited willpower, usually.)

(I'm not suggesting you go out on a bender after those four months, but you can re-evaluate having hit the numbers you need.)

When I say special occasions that will be a glass or 2 Christmas Day and one other occasion in the next 4 months so hopefully that won't impact. Tbh I will still be overweight aftet losing the 2 1/2 stone so I will still want to lose more but can obviously reevaluate. Strangely before I got married I lost with my version of the 5 2. I was careful 5 dsys a week and relaxed abit at the weekends. Just abit weary of cutting calorie down too much as still breastfeeding. (a toddler)

Thank you to the posters giving encouragement and good advice.

I don't think you need to worry to much about accurate readings until you get towards the end of the period. If you get a set of cheap bathroom scales, they may not absolutely give you the right weight, but they will let you know pretty accurately what you're losing.

I've had to lose weight for a procedure before and lost the last half stone on the cabbage soup diet the week before weigh in which is worth considering when the time comes.

Yanbu. You should be offered support. Not slimming world! You have a health condition and have asked for support. It costs them less to support you now.
People will always say their pathetic little comments because they have a weird hatred for fat but just ignore.
There is not a lot of support out there for weight loss. Unless you pay to follow a companies fad. The NHS should help people be healthier. It costs them far less to do this. It might be your area has less funding. Go back and ask what support they can give.