To want unauthorised children's leave spaces to go to the next place in the queue?

[angelos02]

If you value your children's education so lowly, I assume you don't mind their space being taken?

Places do get taken away from pupils who don't attend.

A friend of mine at school had to reapply to school after her family took her and her siblings on an extended holiday. They knew it would happen but due to family bereavement they had to be away.

On returning they had to wait till there were places available for her, she didn't do as well in her GCSE's only got a B in a subject she would have done amazingly well at but it didn't affect her terribly, she went on to uni and do train for the job she always wanted to do.

This was about 20 years ago. Presumably the practice is still in place, i.e. schools don't have to hold places for students who aren't around for an extended period of time.

I did think it was about parking too, booyaka (until 5th reading of title as it was somewhat perplexing yet intriguing)

In Australia people don't even bat an eyelid if you take them out and find Britain v strange. (Just to provide a different example to Germany!)

I often daydream about going travelling instead of yr 6 ....

I note OP couldn't afford to have children. Serve her right for insisting on private provision, the snob. I got my four for nuffing. OK, they did cost a bit to feed after the first few months, but there was no initial outlay. They just kind of arrived.

My parents were adamant that Christmas pudding should be served with rum butter and/or brandy butter, with double cream as an option. I don't like the pudding myself but did used to eat the leftover brandy butter with a spoon. wonders why I am so stout nowadays They did believe in custard on sponge pudding or tinned fruit, say, but not on Christmas pud. I think it was a class thing.

Generally agree that doughnuts should not contain custard but would make an exception for Krispy Kreme. Pretty much everything they put in, and on top of, a doughnut works for me.

There are specifically two circumstances where a doughnut should see custard. The first is in a fudge doughnut (so doughnut, with custard/creme pat inside, with fudge on top). The second is a jam doughnut (raspberry, apple if you're unlucky) with HOT custard like how you'd have cake and custard.

Cold double cream with hot Christmas pud

I find that if you microwave a portion of Christmas pudding for slightly too long, the edges start to caramelise and go a bit chewy. Add double cream and it's delicious. But I do this strictly in the school holidays as it doesn't last until term time.

I'm not sure I can articulate this properly but it feels like, as a parent you're being dictated to.

DS missed the first 7 schools days of year 4 this year. We went abroad and the time was unauthorised due to the new ruling/guidelines. I did write a letter to the head explaining the reasons why we were unable to go at any other time in line with the "exceptional circumstances" blurb. It also mentions previous attendance. DS's attendance has never been below 96% in previous years. I don't believe his performance would be affected either.

It's fine. As in, we don't plan to take him out again this year. We received a letter from the LEA saying we were on a fixed penalty warning and honestly, it's like getting a letter sent home from the head! I think it's the insinuations that you can't possibly know what's right for your child and will pay the price

Oh and to add, we had a fab time and no regrets

Ooooh yes, I know what you mean, that's my JanuarybacktoschoolsecretsnackAs nooneslooking, lovely the way the cream melts into the chewy bits.

Incidentally, in Germany I used to regularly eat yummy doughnuts with jam and quark inside, sort of sour cream which sounds awful but was heavenly as a daily after work pick-up. I also don't remember there ever being as issue with term time hols in other European countries when I did au-pairing but admittedly it was some time ago. I think they were all so much more relaxed about school generally.

I agree that I hate the way in which the new rules imply that parents do not have their children's best interests at heart (some maybe don't but certainly not all) and the subsequent criminalising of parents.

I also disagree with taking the discretionary power to handle each case on its merits away from a highly trained professional, namely HT, and into the hands of local government beaurocrats who do not know the merits of each case.

Now, back to custard....

I do think though rugby that some heads, while privately not really having an issue with term time holidays, are relieved that if requests do have to be turned down, it's been taken out of their hands. And I can understand that.

I urge you to try lightly whipped cream with your Christmas pud and save the custard for crumble.

You can only get filled doughnuts in our part of Germany during the carnival season, the rest of the year you can only buy the type with the hole ... how were you getting them every day after work Rugby? Guess Germans like everything in its place / season :o

TBH one reason taking holiday only in school holiday time is that the school holidays are staggered across Germany - so a couple of states have their summer holiday from June - July, others July-August, others August to September - its because of traffic apparently, as everyone drives south for the holiday... Works well...

Funerals and bereavement are different and not treated as holiday of course - exceptional circumstances stuff!

I used to be a teacher in the UK and I always remember a colleague being refused a single morning off to attend the funeral of a cousin in his early 30s who had been brought up by his parents with him like a brother - not immediate family, no permission, and he was told that if he called in sick he'd be subject to disciplinary proceedings... School management tend to treat everybody like naughty children by default IME :(

Missed the word "works" out of the first line of my second paragraph...

'Twas in the delightful city of dusseldorf and one particular bakery chain which I passed on way home from work, but whose name escapes me (different to my lunchtime bakery doughnut of course). Think said doughnut had a name beginning with a 'k' (furiously reaches back into memory recess).

And Likeasoul..., it's custard AND whipped cream on Xmas pud but MUST be double cream.

Krapfen :o - you should only be able to get them in Fasching though! Its just wrong at other times of year! You can get them filled with Eierlikor too... and with clown faces (Kinder Krapfen) and they have an amusing name - only in February (ish) though!

Krapfen :o You can get them in 1 meter long boxes too... its a thing... Never with custard though surely you'd only do that if they were a bit stale? Same as with cake?

WTF is this thread about?

Nooooh, the Düsseldorf quarky krapfen doughnuts never had icing - just lovely crisp freshly fried outside sprinkled with sugar. That picture has completely thrown me.

Coconut pie- we are discussing the merits of Xmas pud accompaniments and whether custard in a doughnut would get you fined, although it started as one man's decision to take a holiday in term time (with or without doughnuts). Simple really.

Not Krispie Kremes then Rugby

Ref my Christmas Pud, both the pud and the custard must be blistering hot yet eaten before congealment occurs. And it's either made from Birds or, at a push, Ambrosia from a carton Only for emergency guests though. Not including random folk/strangers who knock expecting booze and grub because you have a particular candle arrangement on't window ledge

Does that actually happen btw?

Not in my house. Pud far too delish to be shared out to random door knockers.

And the K.K. Brand name can never be uttered in the same. Sentence as doughnuts. Worlds apart.

Hate Christmas pudding

Apple doughnuts are best, I could never see the point of the ones with a hole in the middle but they were ok to stick on your finger and eat all the way round if no jammy ones forthcoming

Ones with holes in acceptable at seaside, if finger hurtingly hot from the fryer in a white paper bag. Worth going to Brigton pier for.
As for the spelling issue, well Maryz, I'm surprised you even have to mention it. (Flounces off in disgust, nose in air....)

Oh yes indeed the original, circa 1980's, el fairgroundo ones in the paper bag, very nostalgic. I lived in a popular not so much now seaside town in that era and quite possibly kept the donut ( original fairground spelling) industry alive. They were pudding to the fish and chips in newspaper's main course.

Sorry still dont get your original post and why what ever it is that is bothering you about parents taking children out of school bothers you so much!