To think this 'comedian' on Radio 4 shouldn't have said this at 11.30am?

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In the car earlier with DD 3.5 and baby DS. Radio 4 is on, with a comedy-type show presented by Sue Perkins (who I love by the way), when some silly bint announces that all 5-year-old's should be told that Santa doesn't exist?!? All said very seriously, given it was supposed to be a 'comedy' show. DD didn't say anything but is the type of child who stores things up and mentions it later. Didn't want to say anything at the time as didn't want to draw attention to it.
AIBU to think she shouldn't have said it??

I had to break the news to my DD last week. She got all the way to age 10 without figuring it out. I guess that's what happens when you don't listen to Radio 4.

Fyi she told us she felt "utterly betrayed that we lied to her for years" then cheered up immediately when I told her she could help me "keep the secret" for her siblings...

Radio 4 is NOT a kids radio station. Personally I feel if you don't want your kids to know about things like this (as well as many worldly issues that crop up on the radio) then stick to CDs in the car!

What does PNP stand for?

Portable North Pole videos. Vom.

Coming back to have another giggle at "weeks of Santa-work"

I have never told my child Santa exists. I don't mind all the BS fed to her about fairies, mermaids, magic, Christmas etc by nursery but I won't perpetuate this rubbish.

Pnp videos and "weeks of Santa work" are two of the most ridiculous things I've seen in a while. Is this an American thing that's come over here? I don't remember seeing anything like this before.

Ds2 is 5 and kind of believes, ds1 is 10 and doesn't and never really did. I don't tell them he is true, oh does, it's a bit of a joke in our house, Ds2 seems happy to believe I am wrong! My issue is the fact that other mums expect my ds to lie about the fact he doesn't believe, he is 10 and in yr5, I don't think he should have to pretend in something he knows isn't true.

My DS adores getting his PNP video every year! He's 8 now and I'm not really sure if he believes any more, but the video is the start of the exxitement and magic for him (and I get teary every year making it )

Fyi she told us she felt "utterly betrayed that we lied to her for years" then cheered up immediately when I told her she could help me "keep the secret" for her siblings...
This arrangement damaged my relationship with my parents and DH's with his. Just to warn you.

At some point they will hear something, whether on radio, TV, a careless adult, a big kid at school. It's up to you to have a strategy, even from a very young age, with how you will respond to that sort of thing. If parents want to do the whole 'magic' thing, be it Santa, tooth fairies or other superstitions, then you have to be prepared to counter the truth and your little ones' questions as they grow. Personally we play along with the Santa thing, only as I don't want my kids spoiling it for other kids. It makes me very uncomfortable to lie to them. I usually counter all enquiries with "I don't know, what do you think?", which makes me feel a bit less guilty. I am looking forward to my eldest working it out for himself, when hopefully he will also be mature enough to play along with it for younger kids.

Those who think I am being U I think are those who don't have kids or those who have grown-up kids and have become bitter forgetful.

No, I think they are those whose children's belief or non belief in Santa Claus does not depend on radio 4 and everybody else in the world acting as though a stranger really does come down their chimney once a year.

Limitedperiodonly - wouldn't you miss Libby telling actors how very very brave they are?

Well this is going well.

Has anybody mentioned moldies yet?

Festive. Tra la la.

What are moldies?

Christmas Elves from Mordor.

I've PM'd you Purple. There's enough Christmas tension on this thread already.

Mine are 1 and 4. We don't do FC as a real thing, just a fun story. So I don't need grown ups and other kids to continue my lie. And there'll be no moment when the kids realise I have been lying to them.

mrwalkensir I wouldn't know because for years now as soon as I hear her at 9am on Wednesdays I scramble to turn it over. I get pissed off because the Today programme always allows her a smugity-smug trail at about 8.35am.

I'd prefer it if they said: 'It's Wednesday, so if you know what's good for you, switch over after the pips.'

You and Yours can go too. And anything done by Fergal 'I'm An Irish Father' Keane. And the snuffly Peter White who makes me shout: 'Oh just fuck off and find a hanky.'

I used the word Santa earlier but only in context with the OP.

In reality I find it irredeemably common and it's Father Christmas, jingle all the way, in this house.

That's the best way to do it, in my opinion Aspergallus

Limitedperiodonly - Shame it's before the sun's over the yardarm, or Midweek could be turned into a drinking game :)

Yes, cactus, Santa is common. St Nicholas sounds grand. I wouldn't use it though - it sounds a bit too central/eastern European or Scandinavian for me to pull off.

The Beach Boys' Little Saint Nick is acceptable on an xmas compilation, though a bit of a filler track. It's not like Slade or Wizzard.

Fergal Keene!

as everyone else has already said, its an adult channel. Theyre not there to keep up any pretence you have with your children. You may even hear people saying God doesnt exist sometimes. Its up to you to either only listen to childrens things, or occasionally have to answer awkward questions.

If you are doing the santa thing, you could always say something like, "well it doesnt sound like he will be getting any presents"

YABU and ridiculous.

And highly offensive with the use of the mysogonistic term bint.