To think this 'comedian' on Radio 4 shouldn't have said this at 11.30am?

[Imchangingmyname]

In the car earlier with DD 3.5 and baby DS. Radio 4 is on, with a comedy-type show presented by Sue Perkins (who I love by the way), when some silly bint announces that all 5-year-old's should be told that Santa doesn't exist?!? All said very seriously, given it was supposed to be a 'comedy' show. DD didn't say anything but is the type of child who stores things up and mentions it later. Didn't want to say anything at the time as didn't want to draw attention to it.
AIBU to think she shouldn't have said it??

[Imchangingmyname]

And I agree, Father Christmas does not exist.

I am devastated.

[limitedperiodonly]

I wouldn't purposely use bint, slut, tart, cow or the stronger words cunt or bitch in front of children ArcheryAnnie.

I regard them as terms for grown ups, much like you and I regard R4.

And I agree, Father Christmas does not exist.

[Imchangingmyname]

No, I wouldn't use that term in from of my DC, same as lots of MN'ers wouldn't call everyone who slightly offends them a 'cunt', like they do on here.

I used bint like I would use 'silly cow', to me it's a softer version of 'daft bitch' or some other.

There's my explanation. mardy I'd still like an explanation on how MN'ers have empowered the word 'cunt' when they only use it so readily on an anonymous forum? You compared it to 'queer' which is completely ridiculous as that word has been used openly and mainstream for decades?

[limitedperiodonly]

People often ask what Mansplaining is.

I think the man who solemnly lectured me on the use of slut to describe myself was a pretty good example of that.

[ArcheryAnnie]

Do you use the term "silly bint" to refer to women in front of your kids?

Anyway, YABU. It's a station for grown-ups. And santa does not, in fact, exist.

[limitedperiodonly]

I once had a man reel in shock when I described myself as a slut. He actually said: 'You can't call yourself that'.

What kind of fucking right-on mansplaining was that?

As it happens, I wasn't talking about my sexual behaviour, but about my casual approach to housework. I regard the word 'slut' in the way as 'slattern'.

But if I was talking about sexual behaviour instead of dusting, that's up to me.

I regard the word slut in that context used in the way I intended the way I imagine some black people use the N word. Not everyone in the group likes it, but it's mine to own and no outsider is going to argue with me.

Like the Slut Walks, for instance, which though some women objected to, I thought was a fine retort to the victim-blaming of a senior male police officer when he should have been concentrating his efforts on assailants.

[limitedperiodonly]

I call myself and other women slut, tart, cow or bint as a term of endearment, generally prefaced by 'soppy' or silly. They would have to be friends.

I sometimes call male friends tarts or sluts if they have behaved in a sexually louche manner that doesn't hurt anyone. They could be straight but more usually they are gay.

I would call a woman who had offended me a cow or bitch. Usually prefaced by 'fucking'.

I'd call a woman or a man who'd gone further a cunt. Ditto with the preface.

I never say slag but find it acceptable if expressed towards male villains by Jack Regan or Ray Winstone and pronounced: 'Slaaag!!'

[MardyBra]

No, I don't use it as frequently in RL, because I'm not in the MN community.
Anyway, you're veering away from the subject. I still call you on "bint" and YAstillBU unreasonable.

[Imchangingmyname]

It's only empowering on an anonymous forum though, mardy, where no-one knows who you are. I don't think for a minute those MN'ers using the word 'cunt' so frequently and throwaway as they do here, do so in real life. So what does that say? They're too ashamed to say it in real life? What's empowering about that?

[MardyBra]

"I am surprised at the very real offence it's caused here, though, when many m'netters who throw around the word 'cunt' as if it were part of their regular vocab"

I've never heard another woman call a woman a "bint" before - only men when they are denigrating a woman.

I feel that MNers have reclaimed the word "cunt" in any empowering way. A bit like the gay community with "queer" and the black community can use the n-word amongst themselves without offence.

[kali110]

So you don't want to shield your children from the world, radio can still have adult programmes just aslong as it's nothing that could upset your little darlings??
Thankfully tv and radio does not revolve around your children.
Newsflash, not all children believe or were bought up to believe in santa!
If you don't want your kids to hear anything that could possibly upset them, don't listen to an adult show.

[WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeG0es]

I find bint more offensive than cunt, bint is a throwaway insult used exclusively to women in order to belittle them, whereas cunt is used to describe a person of either sex who behaves badly towards others.

[yeOldeTrout]

I never taught DC the FC-Santa myth but they picked it up at school & decided to believe even though I emphatically confirmed FC was just a make-believe game adults perpetuate! Can't believe anyone can be so precious.

[MyNewBearTotoro]

YABU.

You were listening to a show clearly meant for adults in which people discuss moral dilemmas, many of which are not suitable for young ears.

Before discussing whether Santa exists they were discussing blowing up a kitten orphanage and unrepentant mass murders so it's not as if anybody could have been mistaken into thinking the show was child friendly.

If you choose to listen to an adult show around your pre-schooler don't be surprised if they discuss adult topics you don't want your child to hear.

[Ricardian]

I tried listening to the first episode. I lost the will to live after five minutes.

[ComposHatComesBack]

Oh I heard that, it is Ukip's own Andrew Maxwell alleged comedian and serial complainer about left wing bias at the BBC and women 'trying to be comedians'.

I know he's a humourless cunt but that failed to meet even my rock bottom expectations. It was like something the scriptwriters for Terry and June rejected as too hackneyed and pedestrian.

[Ricardian]

Sadly you can work on the assumption that any 6.30 comedy slot show less than thirty years old is crap. It shouldn't be like that. But endless weak sitcoms about young people in London do get wearing. That fags mags and bags looks good and you wish for king street junior to run in the slot shows how bad it is right now.

[limitedperiodonly]

There is something terrible on the R4 6.30pm comedy slot now with someone whose idea of humour is speaking like Joe Pasquale and trying to get out of visiting his in-laws.

[Imchangingmyname]

Perhaps 'bint' wasn't the most eloquent word I could have used.

I am surprised at the very real offence it's caused here, though, when many m'netters who throw around the word 'cunt' as if it were part of their regular vocab. They wouldn't have that on Radio 4.

[limitedperiodonly]

There is something terrible on the R4 6.30pm comedy slot now with someone whose idea of humour is speaking like Joe Pasquale and trying to get out of visiting his in-laws.

[Siwi]

Thanks Anyone.
I did think that it meant girl rather than woman.

Is that the origin of hint as derogatory?

Autocucumber doesn't like hint

[scatterthenuns]

I think bint is stronger than tart - I've known tart be used affectionately. Eg, I was a drunk 20 year old and snogged a bloke I didn't like, my best friend called me a 'daft tart' whilst we laughed together.

Bint feels more like slag or whore even.

[scatterthenuns]

CactusAnnie

[MovingOnUpMovingOnOut]

It's R3 only in the car now

Woah there nanna! That must be a c-razy ride!

Please don't get rid of Moneybox Live. I love it when someone rings in to tell their tale of woe where they have done something that is a) monumentally stupid and b) expect someone else to take the blame and fix it for them. I suck my teeth and mutter "oh give over you nobber" at the wireless.

[AnyoneButAndre]

It just means "girl" in Arabic but in British army slang it's a derogatory term for a woman which some people find very offensive - kind of like "tart".