Too fat to work..

[Huntersmum15]

Slightly controversial for a Sunday morning I know.. But am I the only person who is angered by people who are too fat to work and claiming disability.. Being fat is a choice (I am aware there are many medical conditions that influence a persons weight and obviously this is not a choice) but it angers people that these people are such a drain on the NHS and cost thousands in obesity related illnesses and then claim benefits aswell?

Considering that tax credits are being cut and (according to reports) many children will live in poverty, is it not only just that obesity related disability benefits also be cut too?

AIBU?

Blimey what a horrible post from Anthony

I'm going to be deleted for this but...don't be such a cunt, Anthony

Internet police?
Excuses?

Who died and made you editor in chief of the Daily Mail?

No excuse for being a twat though is there?

Just because you've been proven for what a nasty, vindictive person you are you're running off in a little tantrum? Don't let the door hit you on the way out, love.

To look at me I'm not fat. I'm a size 12, tall woman. I've been bigger and I've been smaller. I struggle every day to make the 'right' choices and it feels constantly like a trial. It's not as simple as choosing to eat healthily, every time I eat my brain rewards me and it's like a drug. I don't understand why it's so hard to comprehend that food is an addiction for some. And it's the cruellest one, because you can't go cold turkey.

I remember like, food experiences when I've given in and had something. And my whole body tingles with the anticipation and the memory. I remember the relief of giving in, the taste, the temperature.

To those saying 'just choose an apple instead!' I've done that. I've eaten ten on the bounce for the relief of eating and then thrown up from the pain of the acid indigestion.

It's a compulsion. You either are wired up that way or you aren't.

how fat is too fat to work anyway? i,m fat and i could work dh is also fat and he works

Well op, light the the touch paper with a controversial subject and run off without engaging eith any of the responses to your thread. That's just great.

Lots of very brave people on this thread who deserve a lot of respect for sharing some really difficult stories.

If not being fat is really easy, why are there still unhappy people who are overweight? Clearly it is more complicated than "just stop eating so much". It isn't like alcohol or smoking where you can just go cold turkey and never use them again.

For Milk

Caseomorphins and Gluteomorphins – The Food Opiods

... calories in and calories out have to be balanced, which is why people who have gastric bypass etc surgery lose massive amounts of weight. As soon as they can't overeat obese people lose weight.

Nobody is denying the calories in/calories out balance Anthony but what they are saying is that there are other things at play which often make this not the simple matter of choice you simplistically state. Just look at
JustImagine's story if you don't believe that.

My dad who fought in WWII used to say "there were no fat people in Belsen". Horrible but true.

You're right - it is a horrible thing to say - but that was because those people did not have a choice, to eat or not, there was nothing for them to eat. Had there been lots of sugar and carbs around it might have been different. I hate it when these people's tragedies are used as a stick to beat other people who are going through their own personal hell.

I'm so shocked the OP hasn't come back!!

Could it be that they are.....

1. A goady fucker
2. A goady fucker
3. A goady fucker?

Oh I just can't decide!

mummalo that's really interesting thank you I will have a better read later on

Not everyone goes through an awful experience, no. But it can help to explain the root cause of the mental illness. The overeating is just a manifestation of that.

Sorry for the delayed response. One am not goading. Was looking to see if I am the only one with a particular opinion.

Before we bring judgement into this.

My mother is foreign and a smoker
My real father is an alcoholic
My step father is obese

Should they claim assistance through the NHS for conditions they have caused themselves?

And I have suffered MH since my teens.

It is people's own choice as the food that they eat. Making the right choices.

I am talking about morbidly obese people who claim they are unable to work because of joint pain, the inability to stand on their feet all day because of their weight.. That kind of thing.

We are a country of enablers. That is the problem.

I feel sorry for people who are fat and claim DB allowance (what the Government are doing with benefits is another thread entirely). It can't be a nice existence and there are some serious side problems such as diabetes, heart disease, muscle joint problems and the like. I don't know what the statistics are, but I don't think it does much for your life expectancy. And being out of work does have significant effect on your mental health.

I do think we live in a calorie-rich environment and things such as sugar and fizzy drinks should be more widely taxed. Most of us are carrying a few extra pounds (as a nation). Whilst it is no substitute for sensible eating, it does mean if you are struggling with other issues to start with, becoming fat is far too easy.

I think CactusAnnie's post is the only sensible one on this whole bloody mess.

Should they claim assistance through the NHS for conditions they have caused themselves?

Where do you draw the line though? Anyone who had every smoked shouldn't be treated, even if it was only one? If you have a McDonald's once a week you pay for all your medical care?

First of a how do you police it because people lie about their drinking/smoking/exercise etc habits and secondly people respond differently to those things (eg the same alcohol intake could shred someone's liver but not affect another person at all).

I can see why it's an attractive idea but I think it is unworkable.

TheABC - you are right it is too easy. That's why people need to educate themselves and their offspring as to the right decision in terms of healthy eating.

Before anyone queries what I am talking about. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/too-fat-work-32-stone-5472136

And before you say the mirror - it's an example.

So one story and suddenly their is an epedemic?

There were no fat people in Belsen
What, is Belsen considered to be some kind of utopia now? Shall we round up all the fatties and starve them in a concentration camp?

Sirzy- read what a wrote. An example.

I could find more if you wish?

What a crappy story and what a goady OP.

Yabu and you know it.

There were no fat people in Belsen?! Of course there wasn't you donut. They were locked away and forced to work for scraps. They had no intention of letting them leave so they didn't give a shit whether they lived or died. What a bizarre and daft example.

And of course you know all these people personally and their full life story?

Or do you just beleive everything written in the news?

talk to the belly