To have zero sympathy for this woman

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The tearful woman on BBC Question Time claims to have been a Tory voter. She's reaping what she sows.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hame-you-hardworking-mums-tearful-6643284

I wouldn't automatically assume someone working in a cash enviroment was on the fiddle. Because on the whole most people aren't.

If she's been doing it quite awhile and not attempting salon start up which would explain consistently high expenses then I would agree she needs to try something else.

As this is a home based business I would expect someone starting out to build it up in spare time i.e. evenings / weekends etc and to fit it in around paid employment. Many businesses start in this way with the salary from employment acting as the buffer and surety of having regular money coming in.

I don't agree, in this instance, of awarding state assistance as an alternative to proper employment, unless of course there are no suitable jobs in her area.

Two teachers I have spoken to in th elast two montsh took long term sick leave (for supposed stress) - six months on I think it was high pay and both in that period set up their business - one is website design. If we didn't pay them other than SSP when off sick that wouldn't of course happen. The system itself needs to be fixed so that if they want to start an unrelated business and their employment contract allows it they set it up at weekends or in the evenings.

God your talented grazia who would have known you were also a doctor as well.

Why on earth are you pissing about on MN surely someone of your such obvious talents should be out saving the world or something.

I would have thought it would be a calling.

I think Grazia lives in her head, not reality, tbg someone who can charge £375 an hour and whines about other productivity spends a load of time on MN, every bleeding thread she is on, not just this.

Lives in a hell hole in zone three, yet if she were to move it was going to cost her £300,000 in stamp duty?

Ahh smell the fresh country air....

Ha, it sounds hard. Did you have a choice about when to have chidlren though?

Yes, and I chose not to wait until I was in my 30s. I didn't need tax credits when they were born, I was in a good job earning well above the average salary for my age.

I knew I wanted a career, I work in a male dominated environment and if I'd taken a couple of years out in my 30s it would have been career suicide. Also having them young meant my own grandparents were young and fit enough to help with childcare, something which has saved me £1000s over the years!

Since leaving "D"H obviously the plan has changed and I'm having to rely on tax credits until I finish uni and can go for a promotion at work, thus no longer having to rely on state support. Isn't this exactly the sort of situation where tax credits are quick solution to a short term problem?

Oh I was sure it was zone 3 on the London thread. Ah the ghetto which is Pinner, I know it well, all the youths who hangout in Starbucks, Shaketastic and Indulge are so gangster, I mean just look at them. Years ago I taught at Haydon which is the local non selective comp, I mean gosh, all those kids with nice manners, clothes and Russell group university places must be hellish to live near !

the thing I dont get about Grazia isn't her views, which are usually the opposite of mine but sometimes interesting to hear, it's the fact she is a top lawyer, yet she has the most fixed views on life I've ever heard. I thought a lawyer would need to keep an open mind at all times and realise there isn't a one size fits all standpoint for life, yet Grazia has had the exact same view on everything since she was Uwila here, I would hope if I ever needed a lawyer they would realise not everything/ everyone conforms to her POV.

I'd love to know who grazia really is, since others seem to know.

I've now been told who Grazia is - most interesting. I will read her posts in a new light, whilst crying crocodile tears for her. [We need a violin playing emoticon.]

Ohhh now I don't know and that's not fair.

Still funny that she complains that she can't afford to move because of £300,000 stamp duty though.

Come live in zone two Dahling, its fabulous!

I still dont know who she is.

£300,000 stamp duty though

Isn't the average wage something like £25,000? So it would take Mr or Mrs Average more than ten years to earn this much. Obviously, we are all mugs for working hard and not smart and going in for jobs like teaching or nursing, or jobs which make a difference to society, but don't finance an expensive lifestyle.

I know longer own it and by the way it cost less than a typical flat in Spain so let us not over egg the pudding regarding the island.

Cherie Blair? Is that you?

Peregrina tell me!

Just wondering if it was you, no gripes about the island.

Years ago you told us it was a sunny island.

Did you seriously buy that crappy island just off the Scottish Coast? You can't even land a helicopter on that!

The island was in Panama wasn't it?

I believe so, but last time I looked into island buying the only one that cost the same as a typical flat in Spain was a rocky shitty one just off the Scottish Coast

I've been researching islands and their prizes since I was ten years old. I still have my original drawings and files. You need to pick a country with registered title to land which many countries do not have. Some areas like the Bahamas have a lot of islands but they are very very expensive. Others like Panama are cheaper. Scotland has rain and insects but I don't rule it out if I buy another.

I don't think we need to identify people on mumsnet. Lots of people meet off board and then don't come back on here and say XYZ poster is ABC person in real life.

I doubt CB shares my free market views actually so I'm not likely to be her. I have a very open mind on all kinds of subjects. My views change and I discuss issues with people of different points of view deliberately because it's interesting.

Yet your views about employees paid less than you never budge from "they are lazy and not at all hardworking)

ah ok I've worked out who she is too. Literally the first result on Google if you frame your search right.