To think it's fucking unfair for people like me who bust our arses off to buy a property...

[DamnCrazyWorld]

And all the while people who have practically the same type/ size of house and who are on a similar income as me in the same area are paying just a quarter of what I paid for because its a council property bought through the Right to Buy Scheme.

Should I have just got myself onto benefits and into a council property to get onto the property ladder?

It's madness. It really is.

[sleepyelectricsheep]

Think?! Thing!

[BrieAndChilli]

I do feel that yet again it's us squeezed middle that come off worst.
We can't afford to save for a deposit with 3 children while payin private rent. Can't get a council house as we are working and paying our rent to keep a house over our heads, so the rich people (rightly so as have worked hard for those money can afford housing security) and the poor people get cheap housing (righty so as need help) BUT I do not feel that they should then get a very cheap house, I would love to buy a house for £50,000 we could afford that sort of mortgage. What we can't afford is to save £40000 deposit and then a £160000 mortgage for the same type of property while paying a tonne of rent.
The system is flawed as there are less and less social housing as it gets sold off and not replaced.

[sleepyelectricsheep]

Badders123 what are your views on Corbyn?

[futureme]

That's it exactly chilli

[sleepyelectricsheep]

"it's us squeezed middle that come off worst"

Stop it! Stop this pernicious, jealous bullshit! You are not coming off worst!

Yes you are feeling squeezed and that's a real and valid thing. But it's not because you have it worst.

To get to the top of the council list where I grew up you need to be in significant need, meaning things like being homeless and destitute, fleeing domestic violence with DC in tow. Or vulnerable because yu are mentally ill. Or other awful situations. Are you really saying you are jealous of that?

Think about this please. Have a bit if rmpathy! The "squeezed middle" is a bullshit concept thought up to make people like you blame those in dire straits for your circumstances rather than seeing we're all being screwed by the Tories (unless you are mega rich).

[gamerchick]

Oooooh a council house thread, has anyone done the assessment after 5 years and boot into private if they earn 'too much' thing yet? Always a favourite of mine that one

I'm assuming that the OP has been corrected about linking SH to benefits as well?

Loves a council house thread me

Thing is people go on about building new houses when there are a lot of property's empty and rotting away. Diy sos have just done a street and they look pretty decent now. Why not start there?

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

And Vatican I am sorry your life is in crisis that sounds absolutely awful but yavvvvbu to try to shut down the OP with your problems either address her concerns or start your own thread

the op starts a thread effectively saying I should go on benefits and I will get given a lovely home that I can buy for peanuts,it's sooooo unfair.

And you expect people not to contribute to it saying that her initial post was a bit wankerish? And giving personal examples of why?

[LisbethSalandersLaptop]

guess what you do not need to be on benefits to get a council house.
You are in a much better position than many, stop being so self pitying.

[Owllady]

I have given this Some thought without prejudice to those in social housing but to the system. If my husband lost his job we would be high priority for social housing as one of our children is severely disabled but because he's employed we are trapped in the private rental sector. We can't afford to buy as we need a 3 bed (3 children gbb) and they are well over 300k and increasing. I think the whole housing system is in utter chaos really. It is unsustainable for the cost to keep increasing there is not enough affordable housing to meet demand. They've built a new estate where I live and they built a grand total of two shared equity (or whatever they call it) that's really not enough. We are not even in the south east, though commutable to London.

[LisbethSalandersLaptop]

owl lady, I am not sure where you got this idea that social housing is only for the unemployed, it is simply not true.

[Owllady]

Btw I fully understand we are entitled to apply for social housing and I understand why priority is given to those who need it more. My own frustration is with the cost of housing and lack of supply with an inadequate private rental sector. All of that is not the fault of ordinary people, it's a much bigger problem.

[Owllady]

I don't think that, but where I live there is not enough housing to meet demand so you would have to be high priority (not necessarily on benefits)

[Badders123]

Sqeezed middle?
Oh do fuck off!

I like corbyn. I have just joined the party actually on the back of his election as leader.
It's so nice to have an actual left winger in charge! Not a blairite spam faced tosser ed balls I'm looking at you
I feel quite hopeful for the next election. It will be between corbyn and osbourne.
No contest :)

[LisbethSalandersLaptop]

" Btw I fully understand we are entitled to apply for social housing "

so why the comments about your DH's employment situation?

[IgnoreMeEveryOtherReindeerDoes]

Oh don't worry not all of us council tenants have a hope in hell of buying up council stock

[CremeEggThief]

Guess how long I had to wait for a social house, OP??Just one day! I hope that brightens your day.
YABU.

[Badders123]

Tell you what, magpies plan worked, didn't it?
Such envy and nastiness towards others.
Divide and conquer indeed.
:(

[IgnoreMeEveryOtherReindeerDoes]

creme that was quick I thought I was lucky at 8weeks

[LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett]

I don't blame anyone for buying their council house. Although I do admit to having a furious row with DM when she started ranting about 'all them on benefits in the new estate, no-one every gave me a handout' while sitting in the living room of her ex-council house.

RTB benefitted my family. But that doesn't mean it isn't an appalling policy which has decimated social housing stock and caused social shifts, removing the cohesion of communities and setting up the politics of envy amongst the working class. Which of course is what it was intended to do. The most expensive, damaging vote-buying exercise in recent history.

[Owllady]

Lisbeth, because we would be higher priority. I'm just talking about myself, not anyone else. It's really difficult finding long term housing that's suitable for someone with severe and complex disabilities in the private rented sector and I find it frustrating. That's all. I understand they prioritise housing for those most in need, it's how it should be. It doesn't mean I don't want secure housing for my family.

I didn't mean to cause any offense but if my husband lost his job we would be high priority for housing, it's how it is I claim dla and carers allowance anyway!

It's the system at fault, lack of affordable secure housing that's the problem, not ordinary people.

[LisbethSalandersLaptop]

I am really not sure that that is the case owllady.
Anyway have you applied?
You really won't get a place if you do not apply, you know.

[Ginkypig]

Damn

I can hear your having a hard time so I don't want to be mean.


It's not really the social housing that's got the problem here (although the problems they do have could fill a thread)

It's the private rent/privately sold house market that have caused a massively over increased price!

Why should a house that sold ten years ago be sold today for 85% more or rent be £700 more
The only reason is people pay which fuels prices driving them up.


It greed and and imposed societal false value on property that will stop housing ever being affordable but that's is not social housings fault. (Who price on a different scale)


I want to make clear its not really any individuals fault, most people want to buy a home it's drummed in that that is the best thing for their family so will pay what they are told a home is worth.

People will pay nearly anything (if they can afford to) and because of that they want at least a bit more when they sell so the cycle continues its crazy

[Owllady]

Lisbeth, no I haven't part of me feels guilty about applying

[LisbethSalandersLaptop]

Owllady - dismiss those thoughts from your mind and apply!
Social housing is not only for the 'unwaged' - have no idea why people think this.
Your family has needs, just apply!

[Owllady]

Thanks, I will when my daughter gets out of hospital. I can't cope with dealing with anyone or anything else at the moment :)