To dislike "Radical Feminism"

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I've got nothing against feminists that fight for womens rights and genuinely want the best the best for everyone and don't hate anyone, but "RadFems" tend to be full of bitterness and hatred. And I'm not just talking about kids, these are high profile, intelligent women with power and influence. Do you think it's unreasonable to dislike something where most people think men are inherantly evil and to be feared? Or do you think their hatred is fair and we should respect them for their good work in trying to make humans hate eath other even more?

Like, I said, I have nothing against Feminism, it's done a lot of great work down the years and still does, but "Rad Fem" and "Feminism" are too completly different things in my opinion. Is this a wrong conclusion?

AIBU?

Where would you compromise with IS on the way they are treating women and girls, autumn?

are you part of this Disco, are you on the front line?

Im asking if Disco is actually dealing with this as a worker?

Why don't you read this from CNN about what IS are doing and then inform us where you see room for compromise.

Where is the room for compromise on the plight of women and girls in DRC?

Where is the room for compromise in countries where women are punished for the actions of their male relatives?

Where is the room for compromise when girls are not educated because they are girls?

Where is the room for compromise when girls are groomed for sexual exploitation on a large scale and the authorities do nothing to intervene?

Where is the room for compromise when female children are married off and impregnated before their bodies are ready?

Where is the room for compromise when women's rights to controlling their own fertility and having total autonomy over their own bodies are non-existent, not secured or are under attack in most of the world?

What sort of person wants to compromise on this stuff? Not one who radfems want, I would say. You say you don't want to be a radical feminist. Well guess what, no-one says you have to be, no-one cares if you aren't. If you don't like it, be something else.

'Change is better when it is done gradually' - would you say this same about slavery, Autumn?

Unfortunately people with power are reluctant to give it up. We see this worldwide. Negotiation is the way to go. To emblazon Radical on oneself does not help.

Slavery? why are you being so extreme?

Well I glad that certain laws were not gradually introduced

Are you saying slavery isn't a feminist issue? Most slaves are women. Should we say 'fuck them' because slavery is 'extreme'?

Women would still not have the Equal Pay Act if we left it up to negotiation.

what the fuck is wrong with you? we fight against extreme yet use it? isnt that a hypercritical thing to do? madness. Hence anything radical is ridiculous.

So you want to negotiate with islamic state to instigate a slow change to compromise in some way on the markets where they trade Yaziki women and girls into sexual slavery.

Oh whoops there's that slavery word. Why do feminists have to be so extreme.

It's interesting isn't it, that the plight of women and girls around the world doesn't seem to excite comment, the real problem is a perfectly normal word.

Now we are talking slaves oh behave.

So men aren't going to be willing to let women have an equal share of power, but somehow they'll change their minds and give it up freely if it's done by way of 'negotiation'? Or are men actually quite stupid and is a negotiating approach likely to trick them so we can whip our share of the power out from under them while they're dozing?

Someone's either high, otherwise unstable or trolling. Maybe more than one of the three.

Disco, you are being mad now.

How do we gradually phase out rape Autumn? I'm interested as to how that would work. Or violence against women? I suppose we are gradually phasing out pay inequality, given we've had the legislation in place for nearly 40 years and men are still paid more than women. But how gradual should gradual be?

You're not really capable of debate, are you?

I agree with the poster upthread - goady fucker.

Now we are talking slaves oh behave.

Yes, slavery is hilarious. Arse.

why on earth does the word "compromise" and find a path have such a non following. Its sad that I have to defend the fact that im a non revolutionary feminist.

Nutters

Husbands being allowed to force their wives to have sex in other words rape their wives was not thankfully gradually down graded women were allowed to say no to their husbands demands thank fuck for that what would have compromise meant I hate to think

I just read an article about the US military condoning and ignoring sex abuse of children in their Afghan allies because the 'mission' was more important. Don't piss off the paedophiles because we need them. Compromise is sometimes very wrong. Some things have to be smashed. Not gently coaxed.

The only conclusion I can draw, is that some people couldn't give two single fucks about it all.

Luckily feminists now have much more opportunity to shine light on areas where women and girls are being treated like shit, a few decades ago these things weren't talked about, conflict reporting was mainly couched in terms of what men were doing. These days the fact of rape as a weapon of war is much more well known and well reported and that reason is due to people who said why are you ignoring this stuff we need to talk about it even if it is uncomfortable.

I don't see room for compromise on most of the issues affecting women and girls around the world TBH, same as I don't see room for compromise on other matters where people are having shit done to them (male children being forced to fight in conflicts, black men in the US and the UK and elsewhere I'm sure being at disproportionate risk of serious harm by the authorities and etc and so on ad infinitum). It seems that human beings have a massive capacity to harm each other and I don't see room for compromise with most of it TBH.